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Post by nuuumannn on Dec 28, 2011 13:39:30 GMT 12
Hi From what I know about Pvt Ham, he was the first New Zealander to die of wounds sustained in action during WW1. He is buried in the War Cemetery in Ismailia, Egypt. Could someone relate a little about the action in which he got wounded and what these were?
Thx.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 28, 2011 14:47:49 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 28, 2011 14:52:22 GMT 12
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Post by nuuumannn on Dec 28, 2011 21:38:47 GMT 12
Thanks for the info Dave; I had seen the Auckland Museum site before, but have little knowledge of the action. His name is listed on the local war memorial to me. This is in Ngatimoti. In some places he's listed as being from Motueka, but is from Pokororo or Ngatimoti; I'm not sure exactly where; both are a stone's throw from each other.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 28, 2011 21:48:23 GMT 12
The reference to Motueka is possibly the place where he went to fill in his recruitment papers. Or the closest post office to where he lived maybe?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 28, 2011 22:11:40 GMT 12
Are those mortars on the corners of that Cenotaph?
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Post by ErrolC on Dec 28, 2011 22:51:00 GMT 12
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Post by nuuumannn on Dec 29, 2011 12:40:24 GMT 12
Most likely; there was and still is no post office at Ngatimoti, although a store was opened in 1941 and has since closed. Both are pretty isolated; the nearest store is in either Mot or Upper Moutere, both of which are around 20 mins drive away. Ngatimoti has a WW2 memorial hall, a school and a volunteer fire department, but that's it. I think Pokororo has a very small hall. The latter is on the west bank of the Motueka River from Ngatimoti. Yep; looks like minenwerfers to me...!
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Post by ashleyrayna on Mar 29, 2012 9:00:39 GMT 12
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Post by nuuumannn on Mar 29, 2012 15:15:04 GMT 12
Hi Ashleyrayna; I take it you are a local too? The links Dave and others have provided here are very informative and I've learned a bit about him from them.
I read in the local newsletter that the minenwerfers are going to be repainted and given a bit of TLC in situ by a local chap.
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Post by anne on Apr 25, 2012 9:22:14 GMT 12
It's a while since you posted this query, but if you're still interested, a comprehensive account from a local perspective of the action in which Pvt William Ham was killed was written by Cyprian Bridge Brereton, also from Ngatimoti. Then Major Brereton, he was company commander of the 12th (Nelson) Company, Canterbury Infantry Battalion, of the 1st New Zealand Expeditionary Force. It's recorded in his book "Tales of Three Campaigns", a history of the 12th (Nelson) Company which covers the formation of the NZEF and the early war experience of the company defending the Suez canal from attack by the Turks, the campaign on Gallipoli, and the activities of the company as part of the New Zealand Division in France and Flanders including the Somme. C.B. Brereton's book is now quite hard to come by, but perhaps could be borrowed using the inter-library loan system. (If you live in the Tasman area, the Richmond Library has a copy in its local history collection, but it can only be read in the library). Happily, the section on the Suez Canal engagement from Brereton's book can be read online: www.anzacs.org/nz_suez.htmlSee also this article by Ken Wright published in the Nelson Historical Society Journal, Volume 6, Issue 6, 2008, which gives quite a bit of information about the Suez campaign and also about William Ham and his family: Nelson's Turkish Pontoonwww.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-NHSJ06_06-t1-body1-d1.htmlThere are several photos with this article, including this one of Pvt. William Ham taken before he embarked at Port Motueka for Nelson, and then on to training camps first at Christchurch and then Wellington before heading off to Egypt. An account of the events leading up to William Ham's death was also published in 1984 by Motueka historian Fergus Holyoake and can be read here www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/documents/ngatimoti-article.pdfAlthough William Ham died on the evening of the 5th February, 1915, he was in fact mortally wounded during action on the afternoon of the 3rd, and was cared for at Ismailia Hospital till his death. William Ham worked as a farm labourer in the Ngatimoti area, and C.B. (Pat) Beatson commented in his memoirs “The River, Stump and Raspberry Garden: Ngatimoti as I Remember": "The war memorial reminds me particularly of Willie Ham, who used to work with Dad before the war. He was the first New Zealander to be killed in World War I - killed in an engagement on the Suez Canal when the Turks tried to seize possession of the Canal in 1915" The Beatsons had property just over the Peninsula Bridge on the Pokororo side (this land is still in the hands of the Beatson family today). Re the mortars at the Ngatimoti memorial - yes, they are a pair of World War 1 vintage trench mortars given by the Defence Department when the memorial was built in 1921, at the request of Lt. Col. Cyprian Brereton, the Motueka Valley’s highest ranking military officer at the time and author of the book mentioned above. Among the names of the dead inscribed on the memorial are those of his brothers-in-law, Hector and Walter Guy. Cheers, Anne PS Ngatimoti did in fact once have a post office. Opened in 1870, It was originally located at various private homes. When John A. Guy (later C.B. Brereton's father-in-law) became postmaster in 1892 a single Government telephone line was connected to his home. Telephones weren't available in private homes till the 1920s, when some residents put in private lines. (In fact, because there were no private phones in1914, John Guy was the first to receive offical confirmation of the expected news that England and Germany were at war and notified the people of the Ngatimoti area by ringing the St James Church bell). The Ngatimoti Post Office remained at the Guys' till the early '20s when it became part of the old shop which can still be seen on Waiwhero Road near the Ngatimoti Memorial Hall. A telephone exchange was opened there in 1948. The Post Office closed in 1978. (See Kath Beatson's book The River Flows On for more information about the various historical services which operated in the area).
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 5, 2015 20:25:40 GMT 12
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Post by nuuumannn on Feb 6, 2015 15:41:08 GMT 12
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Post by nuuumannn on Feb 8, 2015 20:39:29 GMT 12
Having had the time to look through this thread again, Anne's information is excellent and was at the time unknown to me, but having been in the local area for the last four years, I've gotten to know some of the locals and learned a great deal more about this lovely area. As promised, here are a few images from the commemmoration held last Thursday: The local padre of St James Chapel, Ngatimoti gives a eulogy at the commencement of the service. A very youthful honour guard. "Greater Love Hath No Man" The Deputy Chief has a word. The presentation of wreaths; the children laid a wreath on behalf of the 100 students of Ngatimoti School.
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Post by nuuumannn on Feb 8, 2015 20:48:53 GMT 12
More images. The Last Post and the NZ ensign at half mast. The entire Ngatimoti School was present under the tree in the background. My daughter is in there somewhere. More presentations. The chap speaking was former C/O of the Nelson Regiment (Battalion? Not sure of the details). Dignitries under a brightly decorative gazebo courtesy of the school. The bald chap at centre in the dark suit is Chris Ham, who is a surviving relative. Chris works for Safe Air and came over for the day with Cliff Brereton, whose family is also from the local area. A relative of his was Willie Ham's C/O. Both Cliff and Chris work in the Iroquois Section at Woodbourne. Couldn't decide whether this image looked better in colour or black and white. Sadly, I'm moving from the region in the next few weeks and will miss it very much. Events like this make the Motueka Valley a very close knit community and I'm very proud to have been let into the locals' inner circle.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 8, 2015 21:02:50 GMT 12
Thanks for these photos. When you say Deputy Chief, I am sure that is Jon Broadley of Cambridge. He's head of the Territorial Force.
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Post by nuuumannn on Feb 8, 2015 21:29:08 GMT 12
Yes, that's it, I remember the name, I thought he might have been deputy chief of the defence force or something. I didn't quite get his rank or title, but I do remember the name John Broadley. Good speaker.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 8, 2015 22:42:45 GMT 12
Jon's a Lieutenant Colonel. I know him from here in Cambridge, he and I served on the Armistice in Cambridge committee, he's still on it I think. I'm not. A very good bloke. And yes, a great speaker.
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Post by anne on Oct 16, 2015 14:27:55 GMT 12
William Ham also featured during this year's large Anzac commemorations at Ngatimoti, and again members of his family attended which was great to see. In the time since i last posted here I have written an article about William Ham for Top of th South history website, the Prow, in which I've included links to various accounts of the battle and William's death for those who'd like to follow them up. www.theprow.org.nz/yourstory/private-william-arthur-ham/Of possible interest too is news that Lt-Colonel Brereton's memoir about his time with the 12th (Nelson) Coy.- "Tales of Three Campaigns"- has been reissued in a beautifully produced and expanded edition including further materiall from C.B. Brereton's unpublished work and photographs from his personal collection. www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/67660497/Republished-book-relives-war-campaignsCopies are available from the Nelson Provincial Museum www.nelsonmuseum.co.nz
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