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Post by chinapilot on Jun 16, 2012 20:27:05 GMT 12
Box Brownie shots...must have taken more but lost over time...  I have seen a photo in a book about Wellington in general which has my gangly frame leaning over the fence taking this...  |
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Post by camtech on Jun 16, 2012 20:44:22 GMT 12
I can remember flying in these aircraft quite a few times, mainly Chch to Auckland and return. Yes noisy but damn sight more comfortable than the old Dak. Rather partial to anything Dart powered, so a bit biased.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 16, 2012 21:09:13 GMT 12
I cannot help wondering when you think about the F-27, Andover and HS748, each with two darts, was the Viscount overpowered with four Darts? It doesn't seem like it could have been economical to run compared with twin types? It must have cost a lot more than the Dakota it replaced but with not many more passengers?
Did the four Darts make it faster than the F-27 for example?
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jun 17, 2012 9:55:01 GMT 12
Viscount seated 60 or so, cruise 350mph
Friendship seated 32, cruise 250 mph
So Viscount carried twice as many pax 100mph faster.
The DC-3 took around three and a half hours to go from Auckland to Christchurch while the Viscount could generally do it a tad under two hours.
Big plus for the Viscount (and Friendship) over the DC-3 was, with pressurization, they could climb over the weather rather than have to batter through it.
At that time I doubt if fuel cost was any sort of motivating factor.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 17, 2012 10:29:45 GMT 12
OK, thanks for those figures. Makes sense now. It's all before my time.
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Post by nuuumannn on Jun 17, 2012 15:20:04 GMT 12
It's at The East Midlands Aeropark at Castle Donington and has been since 2003, although it's privately owned. Parts of the aircraft were sent to Morabbin to help in the restoration of a Viscount there.
Its last operators in the UK were Dan Air for a short while and British Air Ferries, until that became British World. I remember seeing it at Edinburgh Airport around 1995 - 96; it used to be known as "Viscount Scotland". When I was there there used to be a number of Viscounts still operating in the UK, bright red ones with Parcel Force, but I remember once seeing a Trident and a BAC.1-11, which led me to thinking there was an air museum at the airport!
The BAC.1-11 operated with GEC Marconi, formerly Ferranti and was used in the development of the Eurofighter radar, which was designed in Edinburgh.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Jun 18, 2012 12:11:22 GMT 12
I cannot help wondering when you think about the F-27, Andover and HS748, each with two darts, was the Viscount overpowered with four Darts? It doesn't seem like it could have been economical to run compared with twin types? It must have cost a lot more than the Dakota it replaced but with not many more passengers? Did the four Darts make it faster than the F-27 for example? Most things that fly are faster than the F27  |
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Post by Tony on Jun 18, 2012 14:11:41 GMT 12
From memory The Viscount approach was faster than the B.737's so ATC had to be careful how they staggered the aircraft for finals.
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Post by expatkiwi on Aug 30, 2012 9:43:37 GMT 12
Peter, do you have any pictures of ZK-SKY that shows better the top and under-sides of the wings? I'm having a model made of that viscount and while your fuselage pics are great, I'm uncertain of the location of the registration lettering on the wings, and if they are silver, white, or a mix of the two. BTW, if anyone else has info, can you please e-mail it to me at kiwidean@aol.com
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 8, 2012 1:48:20 GMT 12
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 9, 2012 10:25:09 GMT 12
It seems rather quaint seeing "JET-PROP VISCOUNT" displayed on the vertical stabilizer of ZK-BWO...  Note: pic taken from www.airliners.net |
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 10, 2012 11:43:50 GMT 12
One of these planes is still flying (no prizes for guessing which one)  Note: pic taken from "NAC: The Official History of New Zealand National Airways Corporation 1947-1978" by Richard Waugh (ISBN 978-0-473-12000-9) |
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 10, 2012 11:46:24 GMT 12
ZK-BRF "City of Christchurch" showing off it's new (and final) livery over Christchurch (circa 1969). Personally, I would have loved to have seen a viscount painted in the "Wings of the Nation" Livery...  Note: pic taken from "NAC: The Official History of New Zealand National Airways Corporation 1947-1978" by Richard Waugh (ISBN 978-0-473-12000-9) Personally, I would have loved to have seen a viscount painted in the "Wings of the Nation" Livery...  |
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 10, 2012 11:48:51 GMT 12
NAC viscount taxi-ing in. Note the outboard engines already stopped. This was normal practice after the aircraft left the runway and entered the taxiway after landing.  Note: pic taken from "NAC: The Official History of New Zealand National Airways Corporation 1947-1978" by Richard Waugh (ISBN 978-0-473-12000-9) |
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 10, 2012 16:08:08 GMT 12
These pictures shows just what a gorgeous bird the Viscount is. The NAC techs knew how to take care of their aircraft.
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 10, 2012 16:16:11 GMT 12
The last Viscount to fly in New Zealand. A memorial of sorts to the Mouldoon government's heavy-handedness in Civil Aviation - first with the forced merger of NAC into Air New Zealand, then their vindictiveness in their mechanizations against the Aqua Avia Society.  Note: Picture provided by Brian Burrage (brian.burrage@btinternet.com) |
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 11, 2012 3:22:08 GMT 12
Harrysone's Viscount model.  |
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Post by nzav8a on Sept 13, 2012 21:21:57 GMT 12
ZK-NAI Sydney 2 February 1967 with NZNAC titles added  |
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 14, 2012 1:27:33 GMT 12
That was the Viscount that was purchased from Poland.
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 16, 2012 4:05:56 GMT 12
A viscount parked in a parking lot...  Note: pic taken from "NAC: The Official History of New Zealand National Airways Corporation 1947-1978" by Richard Waugh (ISBN 978-0-473-12000-9) |
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