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Post by dakdriver on Sept 4, 2012 7:49:21 GMT 12
Didn’t remember the large windows in the Viscount, The Friendship had large ones as well but what I did remember was how small the windows were in the 747 on my first non military overseas trip (Pan Am 1972 I think)
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Sept 4, 2012 11:14:50 GMT 12
Didn’t remember the large windows in the Viscount, The Friendship had large ones as well but what I did remember was how small the windows were in the 747 on my first non military overseas trip (Pan Am 1972 I think) Having flown in both Qantas Boeing 707s and Air NZ Douglas DC-8s, I can confirm the DC-8 windows were huge compared with the B707 windows. And although I only flew on a NAC Viscount once (in my early teens), I can clearly remember the large windows, similar to the F.27 Friendship windows.
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Post by expatkiwi on Sept 4, 2012 16:08:45 GMT 12
I remember some of the regional airports where my family walked out onto the tarmac to board the F-27's. Nelson (the dingy old one and the new one), Rotorua, Wanganui, Palmerston North. I wonder how they have evolved since I emigrated.
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Post by baz62 on Sept 4, 2012 16:54:34 GMT 12
My very first flight was in a NAC Friendship from Christchurch to Napier for the school holidays in either the late 60s or early 70's. Parents were cunning and didn't tell us what was going on and I was afraid to ask in case we weren't going flying. Fortunately we did. Oh wait I know exactly when it was. The day the late Prime Minister Norm Kirk's body flew into Christchurch as our flight was delayed while it landed. So 1974 in August I think.
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Post by beagle on Sept 4, 2012 17:44:17 GMT 12
31 aug he died Baz.
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Post by kb on Sept 4, 2012 17:44:29 GMT 12
Phil82 wrote
"I spent a late honeymoon on Norfolk, 1971, when the only means of getting there was a single Qantas DC4 maintained only for that route! Here it is! B747 can land at Wellington, but can't operate at normal weights so they didn't. They were required to land one there at least once a year, which usually attracted a crowd."
I have photos somewhere of that DC-4. It seemed forever on takeoff at Mangere. When I get myself sorted I will dig it out and post.
Qantas B747's did regularly land at Wellington. They were the SP version! My mate lived in the hills above and sometimes they seemed barely higher than us watching.
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Post by chinapilot on Sept 4, 2012 19:14:01 GMT 12
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Sept 4, 2012 20:11:54 GMT 12
DC-8 landings at Welliington were more interesting.
I flew into Wellington from Sydney in DC-8s twice and both times they used the entire length of the runway to slow to taxi speed, literally from the piano keys to the piano keys.
I wonder if an airline would be allowed to fly an airliner with similar performance into Wellington today.
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Post by baz62 on Sept 5, 2012 13:02:05 GMT 12
No it was early August I think, Wikipedia had it wrong if thats whhere u got it from.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Sept 5, 2012 13:40:35 GMT 12
NAC Memories. I only flew on them once, must have been the year they changed to Air NZ and went koru. Christchurch to Auckland, a B737 it was. Drank too much super-sweet orange juice/cordial, ate too many NAC lollies (boiled sweets), and proceeded to vomit all over Dad who was on his way to meeting his new boss in Auckland.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Sept 5, 2012 13:42:58 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 5, 2012 14:11:32 GMT 12
Did anyone here fly on the pre-NAC air routes flown by No. 40 Squadron between the end of the war and the day they all changed uniforms and paints chemes and became NAC?
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Post by baz62 on Sept 5, 2012 15:36:56 GMT 12
Ah I sit corrected........ ;D
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Post by phil82 on Sept 5, 2012 16:00:19 GMT 12
Phil82 wrote "I spent a late honeymoon on Norfolk, 1971, when the only means of getting there was a single Qantas DC4 maintained only for that route! Here it is! B747 can land at Wellington, but can't operate at normal weights so they didn't. They were required to land one there at least once a year, which usually attracted a crowd." I have photos somewhere of that DC-4. It seemed forever on takeoff at Mangere. When I get myself sorted I will dig it out and post. Qantas B747's did regularly land at Wellington. They were the SP version! My mate lived in the hills above and sometimes they seemed barely higher than us watching. I was aware of that, but they were Special Performance 747s.
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Post by dakdriver on Sept 5, 2012 16:39:20 GMT 12
I seem to remember checking in downtown and riding on a Johnston bus to the airport and I remember it was free so long as you were flying NAC
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Sept 5, 2012 16:47:34 GMT 12
I never flew NAC at all. I was born in Fiji while Dad was based at Laucala Bay, and when he and Mum were posted home we came back by B707. Whose would that have been?
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Post by ngatimozart on Sept 5, 2012 21:36:01 GMT 12
I flew NAC a lot. F27s, Viscounts and B737s. Used to fly home on leave mostly into Invercargill out of WB or Christchurch. Think it was 1977 NAC was morphed into Air NZ. I was doing my recruit course at GSTS, Wigram, when Norman Kirk died and IIRC the RNZAF guard at his funeral came from the Airman Cadet School at WB. Appaenly it persisited down quite considerably that day and rumour had it most of the cadets No 3s had to be replaced.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Sept 6, 2012 0:44:59 GMT 12
I seem to remember checking in downtown and riding on a Johnston bus to the airport and I remember it was free so long as you were flying NAC Similar in Hawke's Bay. NAC ran their own bus service from Hastings to Napier Airport via their office in Napier. They had a Flixible Clipper coach that was ex-Newmans, but painted in NAC colours. Newmans Coachlines provided the driver, so it's quite possible the coach was provided under contract by Newmans. NAC and Newmans Coachlines shared a depot in Hastings, and they shared a depot in Napier as well. The Hawke's Bay Motor Company (who ran coaches between Hastings and Taupo, as well as bus services between Hastings and Napier, and Napier city bus services) also operated out of both depots, in fact I think the Napier depot may have been theirs. If one was flying NAC, you could check in at either the Hastings or Napier NAC downtown depots and the bus transport to the airport was free. Likewise, each arriving flight at Napier was met by the NAC bus and passengers who wished were delivered to downtown Napier and Hastings. The Flixible Clipper coaches were a rear-engined American design that were also manufactured downunder by Ansett in Australia, which is where the NZ examples came from.That NAC bus is still in existence as the only preserved example of a Flixible Clipper coach left in NZ (out of the six built by Ansett for Newmans Coachlines). It is on display at the Founders Museum in Nelson, but it is displayed in its original Newmans Coachlines colours.
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Post by dakdriver on Sept 6, 2012 7:15:03 GMT 12
These buses came in handy for NAC. I recall diverting from New Plymouth to Wanganui in a F27 due weather. They shipped us all by bus to New Plymouth. I think the bus may have been a Newman’s as well. It possible came from Palmerston North
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 6, 2012 9:48:29 GMT 12
Buses were so ugly back then. They look like the crappy old buses I had to go to school on as a kid, they always stank of decaying leather seats. Shiver!
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