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Post by Peter Lewis on Oct 22, 2012 10:38:30 GMT 12
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Post by starr on Oct 22, 2012 10:47:52 GMT 12
Airtruck. I am not sure. Have a feeling it may have been Don Erceg. I have been trying to think who flew some of the others. If i remember I will post names.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 22, 2012 12:13:52 GMT 12
It's great to see these photos and memories coming through everyone.
It amazes me how they never used to paint the jets back in the olden days. Paint adds speed and protection.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 22, 2012 12:16:35 GMT 12
Just curious here, would the Auckland Control Tower have a record of the movements on that airshow day, aircraft registrations for example? Would a record have been kept all these years?
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Post by phil82 on Oct 22, 2012 13:49:35 GMT 12
... back in the olden days. quote] The olden days?  ? You're a cheeky young chap! |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 22, 2012 14:16:29 GMT 12
Not really, this is very nearly 50 years ago! That is the olden days for jet fighters.
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Post by fwx on Oct 22, 2012 15:42:13 GMT 12
I definitely remember the mass parachute drop from the Argosy, and the single dot passing all the others on the way down ... he ended up in the mudflats fortunately, and I think they sent the hovercraft out to get him.
Also have vivid memories of the flames from the F4 tailpipes as they hit the throttles for take-off, and Mirages in high speed passes frightening the hell out of people who hadn't seen them coming.
Great stuff through a 13-year-old's eyes!!
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Post by phil82 on Oct 22, 2012 15:49:01 GMT 12
Those RAAF Mirages were one of the best display aircraft ever! Typically French, a bit of flair and a flick of wrist, like a fine wine! The F4 on the other hand represented sheer brute force over aerodynamics, like an overproof Bourbon.
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Post by avenger on Oct 22, 2012 16:17:07 GMT 12
Captain Frank ( commonly known as "Clancy") Kilgour i/c the AirNZ DC8 I believe.
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Post by shorty on Oct 22, 2012 17:00:52 GMT 12
. It amazes me how they never used to paint the jets back in the olden days. Paint adds speed and protection. Really? So what was the point in having B 17s, B, 24s, P 47s etc in natural metal, Surely they would want all the speed they could get, or was my aerodynamics instructor way off the mark. |
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Post by delticman on Oct 22, 2012 18:07:32 GMT 12
I've had a search of the AHSNZ Journals and four members reported some 420 aircraft attending. None of the four members reported the show, so the editor had to search the newspapers for details on the display. He did report the interesting visitors however.
RAAF; Neptune A89-309, Mirage A3-23, -24, -25 & -27. (They flew to New Zealand in 2 hours-9mins.) C-130A, A97-216, Viscount, A6-435, Canberra A89-237: RAF; Argosy XR108, Comet, XR395, Vulcan XM612 & XM650, Britannia, XM519 & XM498, Belfast, XR366 with Hovercraft SRN-5, 006, Shackleton, WR983 & WR981: USAF; KC-135, 58-90A, 62-3534A, HC-95G,
52-2724 & 51-7269A, F4C, 64-694A, 63-7626A, C-141, 63-8090 & C-118A, 5391: USN; P3B
152719 of VP-31, coded RP 40 (Deltic version) !!!!!!!!
The Air Race was delayed until the next day because of low cloud.
Oh by the way, the Auster dropped leaflets.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 22, 2012 18:14:12 GMT 12
Thanks for that Avenger.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 22, 2012 18:15:20 GMT 12
Many thanks delticman!!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 22, 2012 18:44:35 GMT 12
Hmm, two Vulcans, I wonder which was the one that flew the display?
Same goes for the two KC-135's, I wonder which one did the refuelling display?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 22, 2012 19:02:46 GMT 12
What was a HC-95G? Is that a helicopter? I cannot find it on Google.
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Post by Gary. on Oct 22, 2012 19:06:31 GMT 12
Thanks Mr Homewood, Great thread....  History seems to become more important the closer you get to becoming a part of it...... ;D |
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Post by delticman on Oct 22, 2012 19:16:28 GMT 12
Try a Boeing C-97 with search and rescue facilities. (probably replaced by HC-130B's)
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Post by nuuumannn on Oct 23, 2012 11:02:58 GMT 12
I dunno if it's any help, but I've seen a picture of XM612 in the static area surrounded by people taken on the day. That aircraft took part in Operation Black Buck during the Falklands War and still survives at the Norwich Aviation Museum.
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Post by baz62 on Oct 23, 2012 11:49:02 GMT 12
. It amazes me how they never used to paint the jets back in the olden days. Paint adds speed and protection. Really? So what was the point in having B 17s, B, 24s, P 47s etc in natural metal, Surely they would want all the speed they could get, or was my aerodynamics instructor way off the mark. Paint also adds weight. However if I recall correctly the reason they stopped painting athe B17s for example was the war was going in out favour so it was considered un-necessary, plus perhaps the weight saving meant a bit more fuel? As to the jets maybe they liked the shiney? ;D |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 23, 2012 11:59:43 GMT 12
The paint that a lot of aircraft were painted in was called Speed Silver for a reason. When the Mustangs were brought out of storage the first one was test flown bare metal and then the S&S guys painted it, and it was tested again, with an added 30mph on the top speed, so I was told by S&S painter Bill Fitzharding Jones, who did the job. The slick of the paint cuts down the drag that bare metal causes. Back in WWII they were using matt paints which would have made little difference to speed and they were not expected to be around long, but postwar it was semi-gloss and gloss and the jets sat in all weathers for years.
Then again maybe sitting in rain was never an issue for these Australian jets?
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? You're a cheeky young chap!
History seems to become more important the closer you get to becoming a part of it...... ;D
