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Post by aeromedia on Aug 28, 2013 10:32:45 GMT 12
That's actually a MKII rear canopy. Snatch that and hang out for a MkII instrument panel that surface from time to time and you have a nice little piece of WWII to display and own.
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Post by htbrst on Sept 7, 2013 13:31:08 GMT 12
That's actually a MKII rear canopy. Snatch that and hang out for a MkII instrument panel that surface from time to time and you have a nice little piece of WWII to display and own. Thanks Aeromedia - not something I would have picked up on There is another interesting 'cockpit' on trademe at the moment: www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-collectables/militaria/wwii-earlier/auction-634972978.htmSadly too far away for me, even if it could get past the wife
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Post by Dave Homewood on Sept 7, 2013 15:15:13 GMT 12
Something looks awfully small about that cockpit space. That is Chris Rudge's seller name.
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Post by gordont on Dec 30, 2013 16:54:25 GMT 12
Compliments of the Season to all. Just thought it high time for an update on my Bf 109E pit'. Seats next, followed by electrics. However "life" intrudes so things might get a bit slower for a while. Regards
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Post by baz62 on Dec 30, 2013 21:44:02 GMT 12
Thats a nice looking cockpit. Is it original or scratchbuilt as it looks very realistic!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 30, 2013 22:27:18 GMT 12
Really neat Gordon, thanks for posting.
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Post by gordont on Dec 31, 2013 7:13:29 GMT 12
Hi Baz62. This is scratch built from limited dimensional information and photos (lots of them). I have am a "Sheddy" who believes if I can't get something make it! However its as close as I can get without spending lots of money on Plans.
In saying that, if anyone has clear pictures of the labels on the fuel shut off , Oxygen regulator, and radiator winding handle it would be appreciated. ;o)
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Post by jaybee on Jan 8, 2014 15:44:08 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 8, 2014 16:07:48 GMT 12
That is a nice looking Vampire cockpit for sure. But I disagree with the statement on Trade me "Now the oldest Vampire Trainer World wide." It's not, it's merely a remnant. A bit. A severed part of a Vampire Trainer. Had it been preserved whole, you could claim that, but it's no longer a Vampire trainer. It's a cockpit, the Vampire is long dead. Like when they mount lions and elephant heads and stick them on the wall.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 8, 2014 16:23:31 GMT 12
Looks to be ex-NZ5702.
"WFU - sold 2May63 by tender #8241 of 9Feb63 to Dwen Distribution Co., Auckland, ex-Woodbourne & scrapped, cockpit section to P J Burns, Dunsandel. To Brodie, Rangitata Island for display"
So presumably no longer at Rangitata Island?
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Post by jaybee on Jan 8, 2014 16:58:08 GMT 12
I would be very happy for it to reside in my shed! It's a piece of kiwi history and hopefully it will end up somewhere that enables a wide range of people to see and appreciate it.
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Post by baz62 on Jan 8, 2014 17:33:08 GMT 12
Yes I agree it's not complete but it is a large part of the Vampire and rather than "just the cockpit" its actually the entire pod, wings and tail booms would have it complete but the pod would have the data plate and that is it's identity not the wings nor tail booms. Most of the other cockpits have been cut from their original fuselage and those I agree are less of an aircraft but this is a potential starting point for someone. (Here you go Don, not a Skyhawk but it's an ex RNZAF jet!) It looks immaculate and has obviously had a lot of work done to her over the years.
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Post by baronbeeza on Jan 8, 2014 18:11:05 GMT 12
It would come up well with some dummy wings etc as the guys at Tauranga have done with their Kittyhawk. Too difficult to think about airworthiness but possibly too good to ignore. It may have some museum value. EDIT (After Zac decided he liked). A pic snaffled from another thread as a reminder. The booms and tailplane could possibly be done in fibreglass. Not a cheap proposition but the result would be an admirable static display piece, complete with history. And from the Trademe advert.
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Post by Richard Wesley on Jan 10, 2014 16:25:43 GMT 12
Wonderful looking piece of history that looks very complete. Thanks for pointing out. Pity about the price tag, I was comparing what similar money would get you on trademe in terms of complete airworthy aircraft.
I wonder what the international interest in something like this is? Certainly hope it stays in New Zealand and would be great to see it at an airshow or similar.
Also very interested to see the replica P40 wings, hadn't heard about that.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 10, 2014 16:28:22 GMT 12
The P-40 as a whole at Tauranga is a replica.
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Post by Venomnut on Feb 22, 2018 17:35:18 GMT 12
I’ve just imported this ex-Swiss DH112 FB54 Venom cockpit painted as ‘J-1712’ from the U.K. as a project for me to tinker with and help feed my obsession with Venoms. IMG_2060 by Jason Mills, on Flickr I purchased it from Terry Parker in July last year but delayed delivering it to the shipping agent until the beginning of October while I was waiting for some spares from Switzerland and around the U.K to join up with it. Alan Allen (in the U.K) has been instrumental in me getting these spares, I owe him big time! Thanks Alan. Delays around completing the export licence meant it didn’t leave U.K shores until just before Christmas. The cockpit pod was built by Pilatus and is serial number S211. Its Swiss Air Force number (J-17xx) is unknown. Unfortunately the identity plates giving this number and its F+W serial have been removed by someone prior to Terry purchasing it. It was initially thought the Pilatus, F+W and SAF serial numbers were in sequence, which would’ve made it J-1712. However, there is evidence to suggest that this isn’t the case. Despite Terry’s best efforts over the years to contact various people and organisations to determine its SAF identity, it’s still unknown. Pilatus no longer has records relating to this either. It does have 2 panels from J-1711 fitted, which may be its true identity, or simply parts that have been replaced after decommissioning. It also has parts from J-1545 & J-1590 fitted as well. What is known, is that once it was decommissioned, the cockpit was owned by a Swiss air force pilot and it was made into a homemade flight simulator for his children. At one stage the cockpit was mounted on a 2 axis gimbal that has since been removed. It could be one of approximately 60 Swiss FB54 Venom identities whose current location/fate is largely unknown. A lot went to private collectors in Switzerland and are probably hidden away in sheds and garages. IMG_2082 by Jason Mills, on Flickr There are still a few items in here that are needed or need changing, some of which I now have. A new addition that I got from Switzerland is the LAR S-107 bombsite (fitted to the left of the MK4 GGS). The FB50R recon version is even more cluttered with a periscope arrangement coming up from the floor on the R/H side with an eye piece staring you in the face. Externally it’s in need of a repaint/fabric replacement. The nose compartment has had all of its Swiss equipment removed; I would really like to get the mount frame, gun camera, IFF transponder and UHF units that go in there. I now have some of the nose leg components for the project and once a support frame is made for the rear of the pod, it will be removed from the trailer. Terry could have easily sold the cockpit to a U.K buyer who would’ve collected it from his door. But, he kindly agreed to deal with the U.K shipping agent and drive it 4 hours to the shipping depot. Thanks Terry. Last month I acquired a pair of wing stubs, cut outboard of the main gear castings from the damaged wings off J-1634/VNM1. These will require a lot of work to get them to display standard. IMG_2086 by Jason Mills, on Flickr My original FB50 Venom panel marked with the fictitious call sign of J-1651 and FB54 throttle quadrant. I might construct a section of cockpit at some stage to display it in along with a spare Swiss nose cone I have. These projects should keep me busy for a while. Jason.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 22, 2018 17:44:20 GMT 12
Fantastic to see it has arrived Jason, what a great project.
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Post by aeromedia on Feb 22, 2018 22:08:44 GMT 12
Terrific news. Great to see the classic cockpit movement expanding. Well done and congratulations.
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Post by baz62 on Feb 23, 2018 6:46:38 GMT 12
Awesome score Jason. Glad to see its not just Anthony and I bringing bits of old aeroplanes into the country!! That looks in great condition and such a shame someone has made off with the data plates. Would love to check it out one day. Whereabouts are you?
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Post by ZacYates on Feb 23, 2018 11:02:19 GMT 12
Nice one Jason, what a great project!
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