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Post by rone on Apr 20, 2018 17:59:21 GMT 12
No Dave, we undid every nut and bolt, or broke the bits off. Then all the aluminium was taken to the Neilson Street foundry for melting down (same place where the TEAL F/boats went, and the Dauntless's, plus a few others). I clearly remember one engine had a broken master conrod, it sure made a mess of the innards.
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Post by rone on Apr 20, 2018 18:10:57 GMT 12
One more bit of faded memory. I still recall 3 Hudsons, wingless, parked beside the kerb down the hill off Te Rapa straight, just along from where Spotlight is now. You Waikato fellows will know the place. That was around late 1947, they were there for a couple of years before they disappeared.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 20, 2018 22:27:24 GMT 12
Thanks Ron. Hmm, I wonder what happened to those Hudsons.
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Post by 42jailbar on Jul 7, 2018 10:31:21 GMT 12
My grandfather Sqd. Ldr Paul Green did five tour of duties to the islands during the war. Three flying Kitty's and two flying Corsairs. Two of the kittyhawks saved he flew, NZ3009 and NZ3043 which I think is in Aussie. It brings tears to my eyes seeing those beautiful planes that had a lot of history in defending our country completely wiped out forever. It was a real shame there weren't more people like John Smith back then that could have saved more planes from being scrapped. To think that we had 20 or so Dauntless dive bombers, all scrapped. No one had any foresight back then. I read my grandfathers log books all the time. He flew 30 different Kitty's and 25 different Corsairs and even an american air force p38 at Guadalcanal. All those men and planes gone forever. Sad.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 7, 2018 10:47:29 GMT 12
Welcome to the forum!! Your grandfather is someone who has come up many times in my research and in conversation with veterans, and he was always remembered fondly by those who served with him.
NZ3043 is with John Smith at Mapua, rather than in Aussie.
I'd love to see your grandfather's logbooks. Is there any chance of possibly getting digital photograph copies please?
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Post by 42jailbar on Jul 7, 2018 15:50:44 GMT 12
Brilliant photos. I note someone mustn't have stirred the paint enough when remarking a few of the Corsairs as the Kiwi markings have totally washed off. Corsair NZ5511 in one of the photos, found it in my grandfathers log book. His first solo was flying this very Corsair. |
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Post by 42jailbar on Jul 7, 2018 15:56:17 GMT 12
Welcome to the forum!! Your grandfather is someone who has come up many times in my research and in conversation with veterans, and he was always remembered fondly by those who served with him. NZ3043 is with John Smith at Mapua, rather than in Aussie. I'd love to see your grandfather's logbooks. Is there any chance of possibly getting digital photograph copies please? Hi Dave, send me an email to info@tussockridge.co.nz NZ3009 is on his log books alot . I checked his log books this morning. He actually flew 69 different Kitty's. Very sad seeing those photos, wish more were saved. Cheers Ward Kellahan |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 7, 2018 16:20:22 GMT 12
Thanks Ward.
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Post by agile on Mar 4, 2020 20:18:48 GMT 12
A chap in the Waikato has been in touch with some bits and pieces he recovered from Rukuhia or nearby. He got onto us because he also has a set of Hudson mainwheels which are looking for a home. Wondering if anyone recognises any of the bits pictured below (most of it looks aircrafty to me but none of it's wooden or wonderful enough for my limited bits recognition skills). Anyone recognise anything?: 1.  2.  3.  4.  5.  6.  7.  8.  9.  10.  11.  12.  13.  14.  15.  16.  17.  19.  20.  21.  22.  23.  24.  25.  26.  |
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Post by versuch on Mar 4, 2020 22:38:42 GMT 12
11-12-14 Look like Hawker Spars, Hind ?
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Post by madmac on Mar 5, 2020 7:33:25 GMT 12
the muffler in the last two pics could be hind as well. opps I am sure I have seen that type of muffler on one of the hart / hind family.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 5, 2020 7:43:35 GMT 12
Very interesting stuff Alex. Did you guys at Ferrymead give the Hudson wheels a new home?
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Post by keroburner on Mar 6, 2020 16:30:05 GMT 12
I would happily take the wheels if they dont  |
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Post by markrogers on Mar 6, 2020 21:48:16 GMT 12
I remember years ago in Nelson in the late 70's seeing apple trailers with P-51 Mustang wheels fitted to them and about 10-15 years ago I came across a large farm weed spray tank fitted with Ventura or Hudson mainwheels on it. About the same time as the spray tank with the PV1/Hudson wheels I also came across a farm trailer with P-51 wheels on it.It was abandoned and I remember considering asking about whether I could take it home with me....but I didn't. All of this in Nelson.
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Post by agile on Mar 7, 2020 6:09:57 GMT 12
They do look a bit like Hawker spars. This is the best set of pics of skeletal Hawker biplanes I can find: www.flickr.com/photos/45038141@N02/4145354176/in/photostreamThe rib attached to the spar in my pics doesn't look right to me (no uprights) and I don't recognise any of the other stuff. Pretty sure the item in the last pics isn't a Kestrel exhaust - Kestrel exhaust ports aren't circular. What about a Gypsy Six/Queen engine though? The Mu Z-switch is American - there's one for sale on eBay. Dave, we don't need the wheels but we are working on finding them a home. Keroburner, PM inbound. Cheers A |
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Post by madmac on Mar 7, 2020 7:43:41 GMT 12
On second thought given the exhaust looks to be cast iron, is it an aircraft part at all.
Hawker Hart spar section (largely unchanged I believe between hind and Hart), if not its mostly likely a pre WWII English aircraft spar (the yanks didn't seem to do the high strength formed stainless spars that I know of).
From the Flight archive Via aviadejavu.ru 
The piece with the switch on looks like some form of ammunition feeder but its symmetrical and the corner features suggest the hinged wings had only a shallow angle on them if any. So would guess a fuselage mounted pair of guns (possibly not a lot of wings with that much depth.
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Post by agile on Mar 7, 2020 8:20:46 GMT 12
The cross-section certainly looks right doesn't it. Yeah, I do wonder if the exhaust manifold is off a car or tractor, and I'm likewise a bit suspicious of the curving pipes. Ammo feeder is an interesting thought.
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Post by madmac on Mar 7, 2020 10:05:06 GMT 12
The W truss doesn't look to have any shear clips (for attaching ribs) on it, which would make it centre section or some other fuse related item. But its not very large being about the depth of the Hind spar or heavy so is it a not a spar of a moderite or larger aircraft but could be a tail plane spar or from a small aircraft. The form does look like a supermarine spar section (but it has lighting hols in it) see here figure 8, page 13 hdl.handle.net/2060/19930094821. Looks like the Walrus had a spar like the hind. It almost looks like the washers on the sides are design for retaining fabric or something. |
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Post by emron on Mar 7, 2020 11:46:52 GMT 12
Fascinating, it sure looks like they could be Walrus wing parts. There’s a copy of AP 1515A viewable at Seawings that has plenty of details to verify, No part numbers listed though, but they appear to be in the right series.
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Post by curtiss on Mar 7, 2020 16:25:30 GMT 12
Identification from Ed in Australia who has been studying this 1930's aircraft in detail:
Stainless spars are definitely Walrus - it looks like Supermarine licensed Hawker spars in the late 30’s, I have found some similar spars in Oz, had me confused, but eventually matched to original Supermarine drawing on key forum.
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