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Post by shorty on Jul 12, 2008 21:10:07 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 12, 2008 21:31:32 GMT 12
Interesting to see it was paint stripped at Wigram before going north.
Shorty, what happened to that Canberra of which you photographed just a section in the grass?
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Post by shorty on Jul 12, 2008 21:53:32 GMT 12
NZ 6101 Previously WT329with RAF and used by English Electric, Boulton Paul, and the Holding Squadron. Sold to Boulton Paul on 27 August 1959 for RNZAF. BOC with 14 Squadron in late 1959. Crashed Christchurch Airport 01 November 1960 after power loss on final approach. Crew unhurt but aircraft written off.The wreckage was removed to Wigram and broken up with some parts later going to Woodbourne From ADF serials page
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Post by shorty on Jul 12, 2008 22:18:28 GMT 12
And now for something completly different, here we have Lanc WU 13 arriving at MOTAT. I remember watching it fly over Auckland on arrival. I was working at the Auckland railway Station at the time and went up on the roof to watch. Our house was about 200 yards away from MOTAT. The area used to be a favourite playground for us before the arrival of MOTAT WU 13 a by Neville Mines, on Flickr Check out the cars! And the crowd control and traffic management! WU 13 b by Neville Mines, on Flickr and the u/c coming down for the last time. WU 13 c by Neville Mines, on Flickr [
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 13, 2008 1:42:08 GMT 12
Superb. Those are very historic photos. How I'd love to see a Lancaster flying. Was the western motorway in place when that Lanc was transported from Whenuapai to Western Springs? Or was it just a normal road then?
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Post by shorty on Jul 13, 2008 9:10:03 GMT 12
At that time the NW motorway extended from just north of Lincoln Road to the rise leading up to Pt Chevalier (Halls Corner) opposite the Carrington Hospital grounds. The more astute of you can spot the "old guard" of MOTAT , especially in the last photo. Darby, Jacobs,Norton etc were all there. here are a couple of shots taken a week or so later. Safe and secure behind the security fence. Despite what some people believe it was not presented to Motat but, in fact, to the "People of New Zealand".Motat gained stewardship of it because the War Memorial Museum did not have space for it and Motat was the only game in town with space and as a museum being established. WU 13 d by Neville Mines, on Flickr WU 13 e by Neville Mines, on Flickr scan0189 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Not a NZ one but still a Lancaster (with it's little friend) at Perth Airport in December 1965 Perth 1965 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Finally in this set a photo that has no NZ connection (apart from the fact that it was given to me in NZ!) but I thought I would post it anyway as it is my favourite Lancaster photo. Taken, I think, at Boscombe Down just post war.Love the look on the guys face! Lancaster by Neville Mines, on Flickr
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Post by shorty on Jul 13, 2008 12:12:33 GMT 12
Two more photos, this time from opposite ends of the aviation spectrum. First is a Phantom out for the opening of Auckland International. (You can tell it's Auckland, just look at the weather) scan0007 by Neville Mines, on Flickr And something just a little bit lighter, Rex Handley at the controls of a Jodel D 11 at Omaka in 1973. Must be the South Island, theres shadows on the field! Jodel DGA & Rex Handley by Neville Mines, on Flickr
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 13, 2008 15:25:34 GMT 12
That low level Lancaster on just one engine is absolutely spectacular!!!!
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Post by shorty on Jul 14, 2008 9:22:03 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 14, 2008 9:39:49 GMT 12
The Solent is looking a lot nicer now, eh.
Is that a roundel on the port side? A zap maybe??
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Post by shorty on Jul 14, 2008 10:02:47 GMT 12
That roundel shows on the photos I took of it when it was lined up with the Sunderlands at Hobsonville also
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Post by shorty on Jul 14, 2008 18:38:07 GMT 12
This time two photos of TEAL's Electras First is ZK-TEA at Rongotai in September 1964 scan0043 by Neville Mines, on Flickr and to follow 2 shots of her ill-fated sister ZK-TEC. This photo was taken earlier than the ones Peter posted as at this stage it hadn't been dragged away from the crash site. scan0010 by Neville Mines, on Flickr scan0050 by Neville Mines, on Flickr
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 14, 2008 19:10:51 GMT 12
That colour scheme really looked great on the Electra, didn't it?
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Post by shorty on Jul 14, 2008 20:11:50 GMT 12
Another four engined turbo prop aircraft that had a whoopsie but not as bad as the previous one. It had a problem with the nose gear so the nose was jacked clear of the ground and the retraction locks fitted to the main gear. Unfortunately when the nose gear was being retracted the port retraction lock failed and the gear on that side collapsed. As it came down the wing tip wiped out the Freighter tailplane so it was a case of two birds with one stone. scan0219 by Neville Mines, on Flickr
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 14, 2008 20:28:59 GMT 12
Jee! That looks like a case for the health and safety man to look into.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Jul 15, 2008 10:52:15 GMT 12
Magnificent photos again. It's nice to see photos from that era in colour. Cheers.
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Post by shorty on Jul 18, 2008 21:38:33 GMT 12
Some of you with long memories may recall that in 1973 there was a Beaufort restoration project stored at Ardmore briefly. It belonged to Monty Armstrong and eventually moved with him to Australia. It was part of the well known collection of relics recovered from PNG by an expedition financed by Dave Tallichet which included the Darby/Hogan P-40 (Currawong)and others. I was on the recovery team and here are the first of some shots of the Beauforts that were there. A lot of my shots were slides but I also took some B & W photos. Believe it or not but this yielded some useful parts! Beaufort3 by Neville Mines, on Flickr and a couple of views of the assorted aircraft Beaufort2 by Neville Mines, on Flickr Beaufort1 by More to come later if you are interested (despite the very tenuous NZ connection)
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 18, 2008 23:39:00 GMT 12
More than interested! Those are amazing. I'd love to hear all about the expedition please Shorty. How many Beaus are in that second shot? Seems like a number of them. Were they all recovered?
Were everything that was recovered, the P-40's, Beaufort/s, P-39's etc, all gathered in one big trip or were there lots of expeditions?
The NZ one is the one that is being restored to fly, isn't it?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 18, 2008 23:40:56 GMT 12
Another question, after they shifted the Lancaster to the Motat site as seen at the top of the page, how long did it take to reassemble it and get it running? Was it weeks, months, years?
Cheers Dave
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Post by denysjones on Jul 19, 2008 8:41:38 GMT 12
Some of us with equal age on the clock remember a certain person doing a talk on the expedition at AHSNZ CHC many moons ago..when you tell them about the expedition don't leave out the bits about the dutch hotelier leaving the hotel keys to you, and the ute with the battery in the back tray because it used to catch fire under the bonnet eh Shorty, also do you still have those shots of the natives carrying chunks of the aircraft down to the river on poles on their shoulders?
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