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Post by phil on Feb 19, 2013 10:11:42 GMT 12
The USMC states that every marine is a rifleman first and whatever trade next. Maybe that is what NZDF needs to concentrate on in initial training and continual training. Shooting skills. Shooting is a very perishable skill, I'm not sure our 30 minutes a year on the firing point is going to go very far in achieving that aim. |
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Post by ngatimozart on Feb 19, 2013 12:07:02 GMT 12
The USMC states that every marine is a rifleman first and whatever trade next. Maybe that is what NZDF needs to concentrate on in initial training and continual training. Shooting skills. Shooting is a very perishable skill, I'm not sure our 30 minutes a year on the firing point is going to go very far in achieving that aim. Yes the annual musketry as it was called when I was in, leaves a lot to be desired. One point about increased accuracy going from the SLR to the Steyr. The SLR has iron sights and the Steyr optic sights - makes a big difference. In 1982 was doing annual musketry on 22m Range at HB and it was SLRs. This particular day they had a Waaf who when she stood at attention with SLR and bayonet was shorter than rifle and bayonet. She must of stood on a box when they measured her height for minimum height requirements.  Anyway when came her time on firing point she couldn't raise barrel high enough to get bullets over top of mound at front of butts ;D All us Cpls went & hid behind bus because being Cpls by the Grace of God and HM the Queen we were an irreplaceable assett to the RNZAF ;D ;D My personal point of view is that musketry should be practiced at least monthly so that shooting skills are retained and kept current. All personnel should be qualified on service rifle, pistol and LSW so that they can step up if needed. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 19, 2013 13:47:23 GMT 12
Maybe this tender cancellation is the first step in phasing rifles out of the military. After all most of the Defence Force is run by civilians now who don't need them, and we live in such a benign and peaceful environment rifles and rounds are purely a drain on the taxpayers - especially when everyone has to fire them once a year! Not to mention the environmental hazard too! And OS&H.
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Post by baronbeeza on Feb 19, 2013 15:24:24 GMT 12
Is that you Dave ?
You are out doing some of us old hands at this stuff.
Now where is that link I posted the other day with the 'merican sheila bonking herself on the schnoz with her sidearm. That had to be one of the classics.
Be afraid..
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Post by ngatimozart on Feb 19, 2013 21:03:28 GMT 12
Don't put ideas into the mongrels heads Dave. Next thing they'll say 5 Sqn can't drop Mk 82s because they might hurt somebody.
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Anyway when came her time on firing point she couldn't raise barrel high enough to get bullets over top of mound at front of butts ;D All us Cpls went & hid behind bus because being Cpls by the Grace of God and HM the Queen we were an irreplaceable assett to the RNZAF ;D ;D 
