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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 13, 2013 20:18:17 GMT 12
If the RNZAF were in their No 1 SDs then they were not in the rig of the day. No 1 SDs is Mess Dress. Really? I'm talking about this uniform:  Not this one  - Photos borrowed from here to create clarity: sezmeraldasparlour.blogspot.co.nz/2011_06_01_archive.htmlIt has been a long time since I wore Service Dress but I was always under the impression what I was wearing was No. 1 Service Dress. That's what I was told. As an LAC I never had any Mess Kit. Is my memory playing tricks here? |
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Post by beagle on Aug 13, 2013 20:26:34 GMT 12
I wonder how many have taken their big sport fishing rods to do some fishing off the stern.
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Post by ngatimozart on Aug 13, 2013 21:15:51 GMT 12
If the RNZAF were in their No 1 SDs then they were not in the rig of the day. No 1 SDs is Mess Dress. Really? I'm talking about this uniform: When I was in this was the No 3 Service Dress uniform And this was the No 1 Mess Dress uniform. Mess Dress was for officers, WOs & SNCOs. They may have changed the numbers since I got out, but I do clearly remember them. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 13, 2013 21:37:05 GMT 12
So what is No. 1 SD's that you were talking about???
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Post by phil82 on Aug 13, 2013 21:44:28 GMT 12
No.1 SD [best blue] is not Mess Dress,
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Post by ngatimozart on Aug 13, 2013 23:10:13 GMT 12
Ok I am still sure but the memory. I was sure No 4s was Battle Dress and No 5 was KDs. I was in 1974 - 1982.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 13, 2013 23:14:37 GMT 12
There was no such thing as Battle Dress and KD's in my time. I thought they went out with the war.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 13, 2013 23:17:27 GMT 12
Can anyone actually in the RNZAF now please confirm what that uniform (as seen on the ship) is called now??
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Post by lesterpk on Aug 14, 2013 1:26:35 GMT 12
Not actually in but it hasn't been that long ago so:
No1 SD = Officers mess dress
No2 SD = SNCO's Mess dress as shown a few posts back (miniature medals, bow tie, cummerbund)
No3 SD = Dave's post a few back (the guys with the dogs), peaked hat, jacket, tie, long sleeved short and trousers. The sort of thing worn to parades, funerals, ANZAC Day etc.
No4 SD = As for No3 but jacket removed, can has FS cap instead of SD one as an option but not common.
No5 SD = Long trousers, long sleeved shirt, no tie, FS cap.
No6 SD = Long trousers, short sleeved shirt, FS cap.
No7 SD = Shorts and short sleeved shirt, FS cap.
No8 FSD (Field Service Dress) = Camo gears, combat boots, camo hat or baseball cap.
What I saw at the end of the linked clip was definitely No3 SD.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 14, 2013 10:19:36 GMT 12
Thanks Les. It shows how the memory fades with time, but I don't think I was ever taught that whole list as far as I recall. Maybe I was on one of those really long hot classroom days at GSTS where most of the class's brains faded to jelly in the summer heat?
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Post by ngatimozart on Aug 14, 2013 13:23:40 GMT 12
Dave the Battle Dress uniform was finally ditched in 1978 - 1980 when the current uniform was adopted. It (BD) was a pain in the backside & hadn't changed since the war. The KDs were khaki drill and were the summer uniform for the guys. The WRNZAF had a light blue summer uniform. We also used to wear belts on our SD jackets. The KD was very similar to the navys No 8 Action Working Dress which was cotton drill material. Hot & sticky in a Canterbury summer. It was very pleasing to get the new RNZAF uniform, which was far more simpler, comfortable and practical.
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Post by phil on Aug 14, 2013 17:27:00 GMT 12
5,6,7 are GP, not SD.
The flight wear No. 3SDs for procedure Alpha.
Actually 4 can be SD or GP I think. Pretty sure that's the difference between SD and FS hat.
Most of the time the flight (and 6 SQN) wear Navy GWDs, which from memory is Navy No 5 dress.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 14, 2013 18:28:19 GMT 12
Now that I think about it I think we did learn all this bullshit. One of the many things that time has filtered out, thankfully.
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