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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 15, 2014 12:45:23 GMT 12
I have just been informed that TVAL's Hanriot HD-1 has been registered as ZK-EAY.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 15, 2014 13:24:30 GMT 12
You had me rushing off to Google to find out what a Hanriot HD-1 is. And I discovered a link to a YouTube clip of a Hanriot HD-1 which is now in NZ, part of TVAL's collection. CLICK HERE to go directly to the YouTube page as it contains a lot more info. |
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Post by nuuumannn on Jan 15, 2014 18:54:26 GMT 12
That's the RAF Museum's example when it was on display in the Grahame White Hangar at Hendon. I remember having to move the aircraft before the opening of the hangar to the public in 2003; it is quite a nice little beastie. It used to be part of the Shuttleworth Collection and was airworthy at one stage. it'll be nice to see it here.
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Post by shorty on Jan 15, 2014 20:51:05 GMT 12
Theres another nice one in Brussels in Willie Coppens' markings
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Post by nuuumannn on Jan 16, 2014 12:06:22 GMT 12
There's one also at Vigna de Valle in Rome; the Italians built them under licence. From last count, I think there are about five survivors. I've noticed that the RAF Museum have updated their website to include the Albatros, RE.8 and the Snipe, all built by TVAL. The Snipe incorporates a large number of original parts collected by the museum over the years, like the museum's Sopwith Dolphin. Must get over to the Grahame White hangar again to take a look at the beauties in there now.
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Post by Brett on Jan 16, 2014 13:07:40 GMT 12
C/N 75 - TVAL C/N 78 - Brussels Air Museum C/N 515 - Vigna di Valle C/N 5934 - Planes of Fame C/N 653? - Fliegermuseum (Duebendorf) C/N  ? - Ecuadorian Air force Museum Perhaps this is the aircraft that may make it's debut at the show on 22 Feb? |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 16, 2014 13:18:17 GMT 12
Does the type have much of a significant combat history?
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Post by ErrolC on Jan 16, 2014 14:22:20 GMT 12
Yes (1,200 built), with the Belgians (who started out with the ones the French ordered, but they decided to use a SPAD instead) and the Italians. The Italian whose colours are on the 'monkey' Nieuport 11 also had victories in the HD 1, and Belgian Willy Coppens was a balloon ace.
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Post by ErrolC on Jan 16, 2014 14:23:25 GMT 12
C/N 75 - TVAL C/N 78 - Brussels Air Museum C/N 515 - Vigna di Valle C/N 5934 - Planes of Fame C/N 653? - Fliegermuseum (Duebendorf) C/N ? - Ecuadorian Air force Museum Perhaps this is the aircraft that may make it's debut at the show on 22 Feb? Has someone mentioned a debut at the Art Deco weekend? |
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Post by Brett on Jan 16, 2014 19:47:35 GMT 12
In the current issue of New Zealand Aviation News there is an article on TVAL, and at the end Sara Randle says the next show will be an evening event on 22 Feb which may see a new WW1 aircraft appear.
I've haven't seen any other mention of this show at all.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 16, 2014 20:36:53 GMT 12
As c/n 75 it does have a convoluted history: "Used by 1 em Escadrille de Chasse, Aviation Militaire Belge, according to RAF sources it was flown post-war at an international aerobatics championship at Nice, France in March 1922, by no less than Willy Coppens, who despite having lost most of his left leg during the war, strapped his other leg to the rudder bar – and won! It was disposed of in 1934, being put on the Belgian Register as OO-APJ. When the aircraft was seen in a dilapidated state by no-less a person than Richard Shuttleworth, he purchased it for just £15, and registered it as G-AFDX. Restored to flight status, it flew until a 1939 landing accident at Old Warden. Following the death of Richard Shuttleworth during the war, the stored remains were exported to the U.S.A. in 1962, where it was restored, and flown once more. In 1978, the aircraft was donated to the RAF Museum, Hendon and completely re-built at the Museum’s Restoration Centre at Cardington. Initially displayed in the main museum building at Hendon, (between the SE.5a and Westland Wallace, if I remember correctly), when the magnificent Grade II* Listed Building, the Grahame-White Factory, was restored on the Hendon site, the Hanriot was moved in there along with the bulk of the World War One collection." www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/19/1167871/-Hanriot-HD-1-a-stranger-in-a-strange-land# |
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Post by ErrolC on Jan 16, 2014 20:38:16 GMT 12
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Post by TS on Jan 16, 2014 20:49:25 GMT 12
SWEEET!!! I will be their that weekend. We have been wanting to go to the Art Deco weekend for years.... Bring it on I say.  |
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 16, 2014 21:03:45 GMT 12
In the current issue of New Zealand Aviation News there is an article on TVAL, and at the end Sara Randle says the next show will be an evening event on 22 Feb which may see a new WW1 aircraft appear. I've haven't seen any other mention of this show at all. There is a big vintage machinery fair being held in Wairarapa over the weekend that includes 22nd February. I've seen a handful of billboards around the area publicising it, and at least a couple of the billboards I've seen mentioned a TVAL flying display on that date in conjunction with the vintage machinery fair, which I understand is being held in a huge paddock just off SH2 in Darfield Road (near Carterton). Presumably the flying display will be at Hood Aerodrome. • Wairarapa Vintage Machinery Harvest Rally 2014 |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 16, 2014 21:38:29 GMT 12
Feb 22/23 is Art Deco weekend in Napier Which clashes nicely with Tauranga. |
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Post by ErrolC on Jan 16, 2014 21:48:20 GMT 12
Feb 22/23 is Art Deco weekend in Napier Which clashes nicely with Tauranga. In February? Wanaka is quite close to ANZAC, however - Wanaka have mentioned being offered a few TVAL aircraft to display from memory? |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 16, 2014 22:26:15 GMT 12
RNZAC Nationals 18th - 23rd February at Tauranga |
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Jan 17, 2014 11:02:18 GMT 12
Feb 22/23 is Art Deco weekend in Napier Which clashes nicely with Tauranga. So as Art Deco weekend in Napier has been going for decades, whereas Tauranga has only been going for a few years, the organisers of Tauranga were remiss in NOT ensuring they didn't clash with an already existing major event?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 17, 2014 12:14:03 GMT 12
Bruce, that is not the Tauranga City Airshow that peter refers to, that is next weekend. It is the Royal New Zealand Aero Club National Competitions, which have run annually a lot longer than the Art Deco weekend and move from airport to airport each year. Largely the two is for different crowds, the Art Deco weekend is well established as a warbird and vintage aircraft meet, the RNZAC Nationals is for aero club pilots to compete in competitions.
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Jan 17, 2014 17:34:43 GMT 12
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the visitors to the RNZAC competitions from further afield actually use the downtime as an opportunity to visit the Art Deco festival.
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? - Ecuadorian Air force Museum 
