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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 13, 2019 7:15:03 GMT 12
Then there are the ones fitted with 12 stacks in an effort to confuse everyone who knows that they should only have 10
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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 13, 2019 7:31:44 GMT 12
Then there are the ones fitted with six a side to confuse the enemy who know they should only have 5
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Post by ErrolC on May 30, 2019 10:35:32 GMT 12
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Post by colford on May 31, 2019 9:40:27 GMT 12
Lewis Air Legends announced via their FB page this morning that they will be taking the Mosquito to Oshkosh. Okay, what are the bets on the Mosquito versus the XP-82 Twin Mustang for Top Champion Warbird at Oshkosh?
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Post by Mustang51 on May 31, 2019 10:59:55 GMT 12
No bet.............I have to declare vested interests.........
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 31, 2019 13:04:22 GMT 12
It'll be nice to see the Mossie there representing not just de Havilland's finest product but also representing Avspecs, Mosquito Aircraft Restorations, New Zealand, RAF Coastal Command, the RNZAF, Texas, Lewis Air Legends and D-Day.
But I regretfully expect the ugly XP-82 will win the grand champion prize because it's unique, the restoration was perhaps a greater challenge, and because the judges will be Yanks.
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Post by TS on May 31, 2019 13:18:29 GMT 12
Well golly and Dang I think ya might just be spot on there bud. (add acsent)
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Post by Brett on May 31, 2019 14:06:43 GMT 12
Interestingly the Mosquito is considered a more difficult restoration and so starts with a slight (1 point) advantage in the judging.
The P-82 is also a post-WWII warbird, which has a separate category. I think it can still compete in the Warbird category, but cannot win both.
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Post by ErrolC on May 31, 2019 15:57:25 GMT 12
Interestingly the Mosquito is considered a more difficult restoration and so starts with a slight (1 point) advantage in the judging. The P-82 is also a post-WWII warbird, which has a separate category. I think it can still compete in the Warbird category, but cannot win both. I thought the XP-82 was WWII (and hence has lend-lease Merlins), while the P-82 etc were post-war (and Allisons). Of course, the rules might have a different a boundary from the Allies financial arrangements!
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Post by colford on May 31, 2019 18:02:19 GMT 12
This could be a case of some fine legal interpretation about which category the XP-82 should be in. First flight was 15 June 1945, so before VJ Day and end of hostilities for WW2. BUT, was not accepted for service by the USAAF until 30 August 1945, after official end of ww2. If you start delving into when orders were placed, and when this particular XP-82 that has been restored was built and first flew, could become interesting. We now resort to the maxim: "Bring aeroplanes, guns and lawyers."
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 31, 2019 18:06:52 GMT 12
Official end of WWII was the 2nd of September 1945, actually. The period between the 15th of August (the ceasefire) and the 2nd of September (signing of the surrender) was still officially a period of war, just with a period of non-aggression.
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Post by Brett on May 31, 2019 19:10:18 GMT 12
As per EAA judging rules:
World War II Warbird: Aircraft in this judging category must have had an equivalent type aircraft operational in military service between Sept. 1, 1939 and July 26, 1945.
Warbird Aircraft: All ex-military aircraft. This specifically means an aircraft that was operated by the military of any country. This excludes civilian equivalents of military aircraft, or developmental aircraft that have never been operated in a military capacity.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 2, 2019 13:28:09 GMT 12
I wonder why they chose the rather random and arbitrary date of 26th of July 1945.
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Post by Brett on Jun 2, 2019 14:27:38 GMT 12
Potsdam Declaration?
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Post by ErrolC on Jun 21, 2019 17:32:03 GMT 12
Lewis Air Legends announced via their FB page this morning that they will be taking the Mosquito to Oshkosh. Okay, what are the bets on the Mosquito versus the XP-82 Twin Mustang for Top Champion Warbird at Oshkosh? I followed a link to the EAA announcement, and was surprised to see they used my photo of it running up pre-first-NZ-flight. Stretches the 'Non-Commercial' part of my CC licence, but hay-ho. eaa.org/airventure/eaa-airventure-news-and-multimedia/eaa-airventure-news/eaa-airventure-oshkosh/06-20-2019-Rod-Lewis-MosquitoJune 20, 2019 - This will be the first appearance at EAA AirVenture Oshkosh of Rod Lewis' Mosquito after a five year, $10 million restoration. Rod's Mosquito is one of only four airworthy examples of the type in the world. His example, an FB Mk.VI was built in 1945 at Hatfield and was originally used for RAF training. Rod Lewis of Lewis Air Legends purchased and began restoration work on the Mosquito in 2014 before taking to the sky again on January 13 with pilot Steve Hinton. Rod's Mosquito will be available for viewing in the Warbirds are during the week of AirVenture and is scheduled to be at Warbirds in Review on Monday, July 22, at 10 a.m.
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Post by ErrolC on Jun 21, 2019 17:34:42 GMT 12
And the first post-restoration flight in the US
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Jun 21, 2019 18:38:42 GMT 12
Doesn't she look GOOD taxiing back in!?
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Post by colford on Jun 21, 2019 22:19:18 GMT 12
[/quote]I followed a link to the EAA announcement, and was surprised to see they used my photo of it running up pre-first-NZ-flight. Stretches the 'Non-Commercial' part of my CC licence, but hay-ho.
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Errol, Shows they know good photography when they see it.
Surprising when you approach some of these organisations overseas about use of material without obtaining prior approval, even allowing for CC licence, what their responses can be. A key feature of all use, is proper and clearly indicated source of the information or image used and acknowledgment. If they don't, it gets interesting. Refer back to final line of my previous post.
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Post by Mustang51 on Jun 22, 2019 16:04:20 GMT 12
Dave....."Ugly XP-82..." Them's fightin' words...............
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 22, 2019 21:01:29 GMT 12
It's hideous from most angles Ando.
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