Australia’s Prime Minister Tony Abbott has called the Prime Minister of Malaysia Najib Razak to say search aircraft are on their way to inspect the site of satellite images which appear to show wreckage that may be from MH370 in the southern Indian Ocean.
1430 eastern daylight time
PM Abbott told Question Time in Federal Parliament that new satellite images show two possible objects in the ocean and an Australian Orion aircraft is en route to the area.
“New and credible information has come to light in relation to the search in the south Indian Ocean,” he said
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Post by baronbeeza on Mar 20, 2014 16:40:33 GMT 12
Satellite imagery only still. Largest item may be about 24 metres in size and is probably awash.
Visibility at the scene is poor but there is one RAAF Orion in the area now. The RNZAF aircraft will be there at 10pm our time. AMSA is directing a ship plus other aircraft to the scene. Commercial satellites with high resolution equipment are being repositioned.
Post by Andy Wright on Mar 20, 2014 17:17:38 GMT 12
This was on the BBC link above:
Australian Broadcasting Corporation editor Jon Williams tweets: Crew on @usnavy P-8 spotter tell (ABC correspondent on board P-8) @wrightups: "significant radar returns" coming from site where possible #MH370 objects spotted.
Post by exkiwiforces on Mar 20, 2014 18:42:19 GMT 12
Just heard on ABC 24 News,
That the Yank P8 is now on station in area and ABC America has a Journo embedded on broad. Its now reported the that Aircrew are telling the Journo that radar has picked a sizeable object in the water and there's a number of other objects in the area.
A RAAF P3 is now on station or is about to be on station.
Two objects are about 24m long in the and the weather is very poor in the area.
Post by exkiwiforces on Mar 20, 2014 18:55:10 GMT 12
The RAAF spokesmen's has said there is a very large debris field and flying time from mainland Oz is 4hrs flying time which gives about 2 hrs on station. AMSA spokesmen's just said the ocean depth is about 2,500ft but will conform later.
They have just release the Satellite images, The are black and white and it does show two large objects in the water.
Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Mar 20, 2014 22:06:16 GMT 12
From the Los Angeles Times....
CNN doubles down on missing Malaysian airliner
By DAVID HORSEY | 11:02AM PST - Wednesday, March 19, 2014
CNN and the other cable news networks attempt to make ratings out of tragedies like the disappearance of a Malaysian airliner. — Cartoon: David Horsey/Los Angeles Times.
CNN, enjoying a boost in ratings thanks to the public fascination with the mysterious disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, has chosen to run with it and sharply limit coverage of other stories.
This is not the first time a single incident has overtaken all other events on the cable news channel. Invasions and terrorist acts, monumental storms and political scandals have caused CNN to push everything else aside in the past. What is different about this story is that there are no scenes of disaster to show, no military convoys to follow, no shameful confessions to broadcast, little actual news to report.
The basic facts have been known for days. A flight bound for Beijing with 239 passengers on board took off from Kuala Lumpur on March 8th. After taking an unscheduled left turn, the airplane flew silently for several more hours and then disappeared. Other than details of the search effort, the fumbling response of the Malaysian government and the anguish of families wanting to know what happened to loved ones on the flight, additional facts have been scarce.
As a result, CNN has devoted many long hours to pure speculation. Ranks of experts have appeared on camera spinning theories about what might have happened. Perhaps there was an in-flight emergency. Maybe the pilots in the cockpit of the Boeing 777 were bent on a horrific suicide. It could have been a terrorist act. Or maybe this was some kind of elaborate heist. Instead of crashing into the sea, the airplane could have landed on some remote airstrip in Pakistan. Or in Iran. Or on a tropical island, like Gilligan and the Skipper.
All the chatter has covered just about every possible scenario, including the supernatural and extraterrestrial. Maybe the flight slipped into an Asian version of the Bermuda Triangle. Maybe little green men snatched it and took it to another galaxy as a souvenir of their trip to Earth.
For a big share of TV viewers, all this speculation seems to be excellent entertainment. Whether it is actually news is another question — one that does not seem to trouble CNN executives and producers who are enjoying the ride on the big ratings wave. The question they may be starting to ponder, though, is how long they can keep this going if there are no new revelations and no climax to the story.
CNN may need to find a convenient exit. It would really help if another killer storm swept up the East Coast or if Vladimir Putin sent tanks rolling toward Kiev. Heck, it might even be enough if Justin Bieber distracted the news audience by throwing more eggs at his neighbor’s house. Anything less — say, the endless gridlock in Congress or Chris Christie’s imploding presidential hopes — is not going to keep all those viewers from drifting back to “Duck Dynasty” or reruns of “Naked and Afraid” or wherever it is they go when the news is merely the news.
Post by Andy Wright on Mar 21, 2014 8:59:53 GMT 12
The journo on board the P8, as heard on the radio this morning, reported seeing a freighter and dolphins. I could have sworn I heard him say they'd seen a sunken freighter (!) but haven't been able to find further reference to it.
Well if this does indeed turn out to be the resting place of all those poor passengers and crew of the B777 at least families can start the grieving process but still will want to know how they lost their loved ones. I read there was a B727 from Eastern Airlines that went missing in 1985. It was found on or in a glacier in Bolivia 2006! 21 years wondering if your family member was dead or alive for certain?
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The Auster should be recognised for what it is: a gentleman's aerial touring carriage and a nice aeroplane.
Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Mar 21, 2014 12:13:45 GMT 12
From the Los Angeles Times....
Media judgment, like Flight 370, has vanished
The disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines jetliner has spawned too little information and too much speculation.
By MEGHAN DAUM | 5:43PM PST - Wednesday, March 19, 2014
The disappearance of Flight 370: Even plane crashes that happen right before our eyes can take years to fully investigate. A situation like this one, in which there's barely a “who, what and when,” much less a “where and why,” defies quick answers. — Photo: Charles Pertwee/Bloomberg.
RUSH LIMBAUGH is right on this one. The reporting on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which disappeared on March 8th, has turned into a spectacle — not the good kind.
It's all "such a show," Limbaugh told his listeners Monday. "We've got anchors and anchorettes who don't know beans about even why an airplane flies. They couldn't explain the concept of air pressure differential or lift to you if their jobs depended on it."
Actually it's even worse than "such a show": The lack of any real information has pushed television news to new levels of unintentional self-parody. Commentators have used desktop model planes as props. Aviation experts seem mostly engaged in finding newer and pithier ways to say "I don't have the faintest idea."
Meanwhile, reporters everywhere seem to have taken the view that no theory is too cuckoo for primetime. On Anderson Cooper's "AC 360", which is so consumed with the story it might as well change its name to "AC Flight 370", CNN's Tom Foreman (strutting around on a veritable playground of a digital interactive map) delved into what he called the "very popular" theory that Flight 370 went "into stealth mode by flying in the radar shadow of another jet."
Of course, what's made this scenario popular on social media that it's outlandish almost to the point of hilarity. And therein lies much of the problem. Social media, when it's not functioning as a "you are there" primary source (think Tahrir Square) can be little more than a morass. On Twitter, Rupert Murdoch has been pushing terrorism theories since the beginning, tweeting on March 9th that the incident "confirms jihadists turning to make trouble for China," and on Friday that the plane was "perhaps in Northern Pakistan, like Bin Laden."
A few days later, rock musician and noted recovery mission specialist Courtney Love tweeted a photo of a body of water with arrows pointing to what she believed were oil slicks and metal wreckage. It turns out Love is among millions who are looking for the plane via the satellite map website Tomnod, which now entices people to join its community of searchers by asking if they'd prefer to seek out images of wreckage, oil slicks or rafts.
And even though her theory had been floated and ruled out by the time of her tweet, Love took it in stride. "I figured I'd do my part," she told a reporter.
We should all be such good citizens! Because in this era of crowdsourcing, there's nothing a trained professional can do that a mob of Google Earth users can't do from the comfort of their sofas. You're in good hands when Facebookers everywhere go on hiatus from their cat photos and Rumi quotations and take to posting theories about transponders and secret terrorist organizations.
Besides, given the Malaysian government's record of retracting information just as soon as it's released, isn't it entirely possible that Love and Murdoch are just as likely to solve the mystery as anyone?
No. No one will. At least probably not for a long time. Even plane crashes that happen right before our eyes can take years to fully investigate. A situation like this one, in which there's barely a "who, what and when," much less a "where and why," defies quick answers. It asks us not only to be patient but to accept the possibility that we may never know what happened. And for a culture that's not only addicted to information but expects to have its questions answered instantly, that's intolerable.
So we remain glued to the saga of Flight 370, filling the gaps in our understanding the same way the television networks fill their airtime, by spreading crazy theories, speculating about tiny blobs on satellite images and just generally pretending we know what we're talking about when we obviously have no clue. We can't get enough. Precisely because there isn't enough.
As the TV correspondents play with their model planes and magic maps, there's another, significantly bigger news story out there: Russian President Vladimir Putin's takeover of Crimea. For all that coverage, Ukraine's crisis still seems overshadowed in many outlets by this invisible plane. But then, it's more Tolstoy than "Twilight Zone." It can't possibly compete. Unless those talking heads on cable news can get out some toy soldiers.