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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 4, 2005 16:27:02 GMT 12
I recently came across this old cutting which I'd kept. It was from the NZ Herald. I cannot pinpoint the date but was mid-1990's. A) I thought other members here would find it of interest and B) What became of this? I'm sure it's not the derelict at Ardmore, is it? I think that's a single-seater isn't it? I recall several items in the news at the time about this and other Migs that came to NZ, but I've never seen any anywhere. Are any of the Migs that came to NZ still here, like the Mig 15 that was giving rides at Wanaka? (except the Ardmore static jobby?)
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Post by corsair67 on Oct 6, 2005 10:00:06 GMT 12
I'm guessing that it probably became apparent fairly quickly that this "dare" was going to cost a lot more than the $500,000 he was estimating to get this aircraft airworthy again?
There was a MiG-21 dual seater flying in Australia for a little while in the mid-late-1990s(?), but I believe it is now on static display in the Fighterworld Museum at Williamtown, as the cost of operating it became prohibitive.
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Post by hairy on Oct 6, 2005 12:19:27 GMT 12
There is an ex-Polish Air Force two seater Mig-21 at the Wanaka transport "museum". It is painted in an overall orange and black tiger paint scheme.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 6, 2005 13:31:41 GMT 12
Ah, I wonder if it is the same one then? Thanks Marcus
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 10, 2006 15:30:57 GMT 12
Yesterday I found an old "60 Minutes" piece on one of my late Dad's videos. He'd taped it in the early to mid-1990's, and it followed the Migs bought by Paul Jellick up to the point where it was transported to the service station as seen above. He did buy two Mig 21's, and then sold one to a Queenstown museum, so that must be the one now at Wanaka. Also of interest was they showed the one flying in Australia at the time and interviewed its pilot.
When I make up a second forum video I'll add this item to it. It's very good.
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Post by ZacYates on Jan 10, 2013 18:00:35 GMT 12
Yesterday I found an old "60 Minutes" piece on one of my late Dad's videos.... When I make up a second forum video I'll add this item to it. It's very good. I'd love to see it! An ad for that episode was on an animated film mum recorded from Tv for we kids, and I always enjoyed watching it with this guy talking about the MiG and a single glimpse of a flying example. But I only ever saw the ad, never the whole piece.
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Post by raymond on Jan 10, 2013 18:10:18 GMT 12
There is one (single seater) on the roof of a Seals building in Onehunga, Church st which was purchased on Trade me from CHCH (60000 i recall). The owner also has another jet and had them on show at the big boys toys apparently. He also owns the gaming place in Onehunga (auckland) which has the Mig 29 simulators.
The 2 seater is in the museum in Wanaka
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Post by ngatimozart on Jan 10, 2013 18:47:04 GMT 12
The single seater could've been the one owned by the Christchurch developer, Dave Henderson, who the IRD bankrupted and he gained revenge by buying their building and eventually evicting them. He had it on Lichfield St outside a club / pub. He went into receivership again not long before the earthquakes and the receivers got the MiG.
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Post by ZacYates on Jan 10, 2013 18:58:50 GMT 12
It's the same aircraft.
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Post by ErrolC on Jan 10, 2013 19:10:25 GMT 12
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Post by ZacYates on Jan 10, 2013 19:11:18 GMT 12
It's the same aircraft. Nice pic!
It's strange. I've been scouring the NZ Wings online archive and there is precious little reference to the import and planned operation of this aircraft, in fact I've found just one reference to Paul Jellick. I am surprised: I honestly thought a near-Mach 2 warbird would be huge news!
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Post by raymond on Jan 10, 2013 19:23:10 GMT 12
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Post by ZacYates on Jan 10, 2013 19:57:24 GMT 12
"Iskra Jet Fighter"!
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Jan 10, 2013 20:55:02 GMT 12
TS-11 Iskra 'Spark', Polish made, similar to an L-29. Trainer not fighter as I'm sure you are aware.
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Post by mumbles on Jan 10, 2013 21:14:50 GMT 12
It's the same aircraft. Nice pic! It's strange. I've been scouring the NZ Wings online archive and there is precious little reference to the import and planned operation of this aircraft, in fact I've found just one reference to Paul Jellick. I am surprised: I honestly thought a near-Mach 2 warbird would be huge news! The idea and concept so close to the end of the cold war made a splash at the time amongst non aviation media at least. I remember seeing newspaper articles around then. This was around 1994 IIRC. Aviation media may have been a bit more realistic as to the prospects of a MiG-21 with a ZK reg. It would be a big ask now, let alone then I would think. I also understand that the MiGs were not raelly deactivated or inhibited before shipping, more just parked up and crated, which may have created a few surprises/headaches for the new owners. I think there may be one flying privately in the states (aside from the Draken fleet), but apart from the already mentioned australian one that is the only operational warbird MiG-21 I have ever heard of.
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Post by ZacYates on Jan 10, 2013 21:37:23 GMT 12
Based on the running costs Dave Phillips has been quoted on for the Hunter, I hate to think how much a Fishbed would set you back to operate!
Ryan: quite aware ;-) Nice to have one in NZ, even if it never flies.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 10, 2013 21:56:22 GMT 12
Geez this is an old thread back from the dead! From year one of the forum!
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Post by beagle on Jan 10, 2013 21:59:20 GMT 12
another S&S paintjob
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Post by htbrst on Jan 11, 2013 5:48:32 GMT 12
It's the same aircraft. Nice pic! It's strange. I've been scouring the NZ Wings online archive and there is precious little reference to the import and planned operation of this aircraft, in fact I've found just one reference to Paul Jellick. I am surprised: I honestly thought a near-Mach 2 warbird would be huge news! As you've probably found, the PDFs of all issues from 1984 - 1991 are available at the moment, and mostly only Oct/Nov/Dec issues for any other year indexed. I'll be working on completing 1992 upwards next so if it was 1994ish there may still be more info to come in those. I'm looking forward to 1992 through now being complete so I make more of a start on the older issues
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Post by jasenz on Jan 11, 2013 8:36:05 GMT 12
It's the same aircraft. Nice pic! It's strange. I've been scouring the NZ Wings online archive and there is precious little reference to the import and planned operation of this aircraft, in fact I've found just one reference to Paul Jellick. I am surprised: I honestly thought a near-Mach 2 warbird would be huge news! As you've probably found, the PDFs of all issues from 1984 - 1991 are available at the moment, and mostly only Oct/Nov/Dec issues for any other year indexed. I'll be working on completing 1992 upwards next so if it was 1994ish there may still be more info to come in those. I'm looking forward to 1992 through now being complete so I make more of a start on the older issues Just discovered the NZ Wings online archive....Fantastic! ;D
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