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Post by Dave Homewood on May 5, 2017 21:00:34 GMT 12
Well said Beagle.
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Post by frankly on May 5, 2017 22:40:43 GMT 12
Unfortunately, most of the debate on here is based upon limited information (only the publicly available stuff). It is interesting to note that defense professionals (on other aviation/defense forums) consider the P-8 to be on "another level" when assessing it's information, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities, together with it's sensor/information sharing abilities. Future upgrade potential is also considered to be superior. Reading what is on that other forum it would be safe to say that there isn't any more insight on what platforms can and can't do. There is more chest thumping about 'expertise' though. Those who know don't say and those who say don't know. SaveSave |
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Post by pepe on May 6, 2017 19:50:57 GMT 12
Unfortunately, most of the debate on here is based upon limited information (only the publicly available stuff). It is interesting to note that defense professionals (on other aviation/defense forums) consider the P-8 to be on "another level" when assessing it's information, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities, together with it's sensor/information sharing abilities. Future upgrade potential is also considered to be superior. Reading what is on that other forum it would be safe to say that there isn't any more insight on what platforms can and can't do. There is more chest thumping about 'expertise' though. Those who know don't say and those who say don't know. SaveSaveI don't totally agree... It is true that some forums do have more than their share of "chest thumpers" (present company excepted, of course...  ) But some defense professionals/analysts can and do provide relevant and accurate information/insight without compromising their work or their positions. It just a matter of "sorting the wheat from the chaff" |
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Post by isc on May 6, 2017 20:59:14 GMT 12
Interesting to see that the new minister's dad was a P-3 driver. isc
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Post by ErrolC on May 11, 2017 9:29:39 GMT 12
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Post by ErrolC on May 13, 2017 21:25:39 GMT 12
The Aussie P-8 (just one delivered so far according to ADF Serials) visited AKL today (I think).
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Post by camtech on May 13, 2017 22:43:05 GMT 12
I believe they have two and this could be the third.
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Post by ErrolC on May 13, 2017 23:02:50 GMT 12
I believe they have two and this could be the third. Not with the serial of A47-001 :-) Although some searching suggests that A47-003 has reached Australia, while A47-004 has had it's first flight (needs mods before delivery). |
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Post by camtech on May 13, 2017 23:16:15 GMT 12
Sorry - didn't have serial, but was aware No 3 was on delivery flight earlier today.
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Post by mumbles on May 13, 2017 23:17:14 GMT 12
The Aussie P-8 (just one delivered so far according to ADF Serials) visited AKL today (I think). /photo/1 Not P-3 related, but these have made a big impression on chemtrail conspiracy believers in Australia. It looks like an airliner, but is covered in suspicious pods and bumps, has a curious circle insignia that doesn't belong to any airline (these people are seriously that inept that they don't recognise RAAF roundels), so is obviously operated by "them" |
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Post by mumbles on May 13, 2017 23:19:57 GMT 12
Not Whenuapai at full load! My mistake, I thought a USN P-8 had already been through Whenuapai |
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Post by madmac on May 13, 2017 23:48:41 GMT 12
"why, commonality with our allies" or is it a common failure point. The west does appear to be grossly over looking the value of diversity in an alliance, may have something to do with over confidence / group think issues / continuous war against 3rd world countries.
Low level flight in a P8 kills range. If it doesn't give us the range penalty for a descent to sea level and climb back to altitude.
The arguments for the P8 assume the US will carry on as is with regard to DOD spending, we know the current levels of spending can't be maintained over the life of the P8.
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Post by No longer identifiable on May 14, 2017 9:05:01 GMT 12
The Aussie P-8 (just one delivered so far according to ADF Serials) visited AKL today (I think). /photo/1 Not P-3 related, but these have made a big impression on chemtrail conspiracy believers in Australia. It looks like an airliner, but is covered in suspicious pods and bumps, has a curious circle insignia that doesn't belong to any airline (these people are seriously that inept that they don't recognise RAAF roundels), so is obviously operated by "them" Obviously involved in some dubious activity. I mean, why would you cover up all the windows unless you had something to hide? |
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Post by saratoga on May 14, 2017 9:51:56 GMT 12
Neighbourhood watch would suggest covered up windows and lots of air vents, must be a flying P house!(even named P-8!)
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Post by skyhawkdon on May 14, 2017 10:15:45 GMT 12
Best post on this thread yet Saratoga! :+)
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Post by ErrolC on May 14, 2017 11:06:51 GMT 12
Sorry - didn't have serial, but was aware No 3 was on delivery flight earlier today. The photo on the tweet was of A47-001, but the aircraft at AKL yesterday (or was it Friday) was A47-003, so that makes sense now! Fight ASY181 leaving Honolulu on the 12th is now showing up on free Flightradar24 (and MRC post below). mrcaviation.blogspot.co.nz/2017/05/raaf-visitors.html |
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Post by macnz on May 14, 2017 17:57:35 GMT 12
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Post by ErrolC on May 14, 2017 18:03:25 GMT 12
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Post by johnnyfalcon on May 14, 2017 20:20:25 GMT 12
Well, for my money, I'd like to see the SAAB investigated further
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Post by camtech on May 14, 2017 21:31:32 GMT 12
Sorry - didn't have serial, but was aware No 3 was on delivery flight earlier today. The photo on the tweet was of A47-001, but the aircraft at AKL yesterday (or was it Friday) was A47-003, so that makes sense now! Fight ASY181 leaving Honolulu on the 12th is now showing up on free Flightradar24 (and MRC post below). mrcaviation.blogspot.co.nz/2017/05/raaf-visitors.htmlNow that makes sense - thanks Errol |
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