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Post by camtech on May 12, 2020 20:55:41 GMT 12
Have all 4 been so equipped? Originally slated to be two aircraft set up for this.
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Post by gibbo on May 12, 2020 22:21:02 GMT 12
Gee not much ground clearance under there. Is the bump retractable? She looks pregnant... wow baby KA350 to be hatched at 42Sqn in 9 months... hate to think who the father is...and how! Pretty certain the pod isn't retractable... the sheer depth of it would make it difficult to accommodate in the cabin if it were... AIUI it there is a FLIR turret somewhere in there. Guess it will restrict them to paved runways... small price to pay for the valuable additional capability. Notice a new aerial & 'bump' on top of fuselage, all part of the package. Wonder how the handling characteristics have changed.... this suggests they could be significant.... aerossurance.com/safety-management/mc12w-loci-stall-afghanistan/ Think it was just 2.... the wording of the tweet is a little ambiguous. www.stuff.co.nz/national/300006633/essential-air-force-training-ramps-up-in-coronavirus-alert-level-3
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Post by ErrolC on May 13, 2020 7:57:03 GMT 12
Gee not much ground clearance under there. Is the bump retractable? She looks pregnant... wow baby KA350 to be hatched at 42Sqn in 9 months... hate to think who the father is...and how! Pretty certain the pod isn't retractable... the sheer depth of it would make it difficult to accommodate in the cabin if it were... AIUI it there is a FLIR turret somewhere in there. Guess it will restrict them to paved runways... small price to pay for the valuable additional capability. Notice a new aerial & 'bump' on top of fuselage, all part of the package. Wonder how the handling characteristics have changed.... this suggests they could be significant.... aerossurance.com/safety-management/mc12w-loci-stall-afghanistan/ Think it was just 2.... the wording of the tweet is a little ambiguous. www.stuff.co.nz/national/300006633/essential-air-force-training-ramps-up-in-coronavirus-alert-level-3Yes, the wording left room for different 'after-market' fits
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Post by saratoga on May 13, 2020 16:50:29 GMT 12
Or perhaps it is only 1, as the tweet says;
'the LAST of the four KA350 aircraft has now been equipped with radar and electro-optical systems.' ...the last of 4, not the fourth one.??
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Post by gibbo on May 13, 2020 17:14:04 GMT 12
Or perhaps it is only 1, as the tweet says; 'the LAST of the four KA350 aircraft has now been equipped with radar and electro-optical systems.' ...the last of 4, not the fourth one.?? Yes suitably ambiguous post.... surely someone on this forum must be close enough to the action to be able to confirm for us how many have been done?
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 13, 2020 17:36:30 GMT 12
If they are that close to the action they are probably not actually allowed to talk about it.
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Post by gibbo on May 14, 2020 1:21:22 GMT 12
If they are that close to the action they are probably not actually allowed to talk about it. Yes true.... I'll settle on the original intent that 2 got done! 42sqn certainly has a busy future ahead, AIUI AWO training will consume 35% of allocated hours. Good new capability... and it does help that I think the KingAir is a damn nice looking aircraft!
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Post by tbf25o4 on May 14, 2020 9:16:26 GMT 12
It probably was the way the tweet was written, When I interviewed CO 42 Squadron for my article on AWO training it was clear from that discussion and other material that has been publicly available that only two airframes were to be fitted with the pods and additional equipment.
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Post by Damon on May 21, 2020 23:26:02 GMT 12
Are you able to elaborate on the publishing of the AWO training article? Looking forward to reading it.
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Post by tbf25o4 on May 22, 2020 10:48:38 GMT 12
The article was in NZ Aviation News edition of July 2019 entitled "The New Breed" it covered the history of navigators/signallers history in the RNZAF and the emergence of the AWO and their training at 42 Squadron
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Post by joey05 on Jun 9, 2020 17:19:49 GMT 12
From RNZAF Facebook page:
By the numbers. All our aircraft have a unique serial number that follows NZ Defence Force convention. An important step in the construction of our new P-8A fleet is allocating the tail numbers, which will have the numbers NZ4801 – 04.
Broken down this means: ✚ NZ – the prefix for NZDF ✚ 4 – denotes the aircraft’s role of maritime, our current P-3K2 fleet uses a 4 in the same way ✚ 8 – this denotes the aircraft type in this case 8 was available and made sense to use it given it is a P-8A fleet ✚ 01-04 – these final two numbers are the sequential tail numbers.
Serial numbers previously allocated to RNZAF maritime aircraft include: ✚ NZ4001 to NZ4056 | PB2B-1 Catalina ✚ NZ4101 to NZ4120 | Short Sunderland MK III and MR.5 ✚ NZ4201 to NZ4206 | Lockheed P-3K Orion ✚ NZ4501 to NZ4639 | Lockheed PV-1 and B-34 Ventura ✚ NZ4701 to NZ4704 | Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
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Post by davidd on Jun 9, 2020 17:48:19 GMT 12
Amendment to the above: NZ4001 to 4022 were PBY-5 Catalinas. David D
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Post by tfly on Jun 10, 2020 4:33:39 GMT 12
Photo RNZAF official (from NZDF Facebook page)
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Post by tfly on Jun 10, 2020 4:34:26 GMT 12
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Post by tbf25o4 on Jun 10, 2020 12:29:29 GMT 12
Interesting that they are using 01-04 for the last two numbers as there are other "01+" tail numbers at Ohakea with the TC6, A109, which was why when I was allocating serial numbers we tried to avoid overlaying those last two on existing fleets operating at the same base to avoid possibly ATC confusion.
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Post by gibbo on Jun 10, 2020 13:53:10 GMT 12
Interesting that they are using 01-04 for the last two numbers as there are other "01+" tail numbers at Ohakea with the TC6, A109, which was why when I was allocating serial numbers we tried to avoid overlaying those last two on existing fleets operating at the same base to avoid possibly ATC confusion. Not that I understand it but curious as Ohakea based NH-90, A109 & T6C all have 01+, so why the need to bother varying, doesn't it just require a little 'discipline' in using call signs? 'Warrior 01' vs 'Poseidon 01' etc .
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Post by nighthawknz on Jun 15, 2020 21:04:11 GMT 12
Training has already begun and will have the instructors by time they arrive...
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Post by beagle on Jun 15, 2020 22:40:08 GMT 12
Like the image that was sent to media with regards the radome being painted grey as opposed to black.
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Post by ErrolC on Jun 18, 2020 8:23:17 GMT 12
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Post by skyhawkdon on Jun 18, 2020 12:33:05 GMT 12
With FMS support ending for the type with it's retirement from USN service, buying OEM airframe spares was always going to become difficult. This was one of the major justifications for replacing our own. Gettng spares has been a problem for years.
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