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Post by denysjones on Dec 11, 2021 20:34:57 GMT 12
Following on from the post comment from the other week regarding the arrival of assorted items the damage to which would result in them being reduced to produce items, this repurposing enabled another wee job to go to completion this week. The fabricated flare shelf in the nav's bay, (see page 24 Apr 10 post), lacked the restraining straps for the flares as while the straps are easy enough to cut out the hook and latch mechanisms present a bit more of a challenge, so these salvaged items, after surface remediation, completed that task....now to find a couple of flare cases to strap in. During the week, cross references of manuals seemed to have sorted out the pipe to be made to go with the stated one of the two from last week's post. It looked that everything made sense according to other manual schematics but trying to match that to the physical today turned to custard! Those two tubes are the fuel tank vents. The one running longitudinally is the vent for the rear tank and that all traced out fine. It comes through the outboard tank wall in the undercarriage wheel bay then runs crossways, upwards (as you see) then forward and across, downwards and back along the the outboard wall of the wheel bay and out to air. Convoluted I know but Lockheed must have had a reason! The other is for the front tank and what you see is the section where it drops down into the oil tank bay and thereafter runs in tandem with its buddy to the rear of the nacelle and out to air. What is currently eluding me is where it originates from to connect through into the tank space. There's simply no obvious point of origin to match the rear one....more thinking is required. ttfn
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Post by planecrazy on Dec 17, 2021 8:48:13 GMT 12
Thanks for the continuing updates, great stuff, as a kid I used to visit Ferrymead on a regular basis, I remember being so excited on the way there.
Plan to visit next year if we are allowed in from over the ditch?
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Post by denysjones on Dec 22, 2021 18:22:05 GMT 12
Running late again this week but several bits to report. Saturday morning saw a slight disruption to works on several fronts with a call for muscle from the David and Don display team who were ready for the last big push to complete and finally site the display case for the Air Race sculpture. Its amazing how much a sheet of display safe glass can weigh. Also that day news was conveyed to Alex and Angus that the former's unabashed expression of envy at seeing the shot of a complete IFF internals on the Brendon Deere Mustang thread hereon had a result. Brendon took pity on them and so has donated all the internal components so shown. Actually he had no use of them as they are going to use the IFF case to house and conceal modern items in the P-51. Many thanks Brendon. Andy Wilson, an Auckland domiciled member, arrived for his annual Xmas sojourn in the South complete with another Cyclone starter-feathering pump, from Stu Atkinson. Whilst we had the pair for 2035 we were still keen to get one for the Cyclone we're building up for display purposes. It's joined a couple of other items in my stock of home projects for over the break time as it obviously needs some love. When Andy returns north in the New Year Stu will receive a Cheetah case drawn from our stock of such materials saved from local scrap yards back in the late 1970s. Great to see something that's been lurking in the depths of our store for nearly 50years can help out somebody's project in this age. We are now looking out for a generator for the display engine, its an Eclipse 314 if anyone can help. Dean meanwhile has rolled up his sleeves and is launching into a task to help me out which is rebuilding the wing tips for 2035. We've an assortment of tips all the worse for wear as you see here. Lots of skin to straighten out and replace there...that'll keep him busy for a while as that's the better one So that closes off the year for us here. Thanks for the interest you've shown in the posts over the year. We'll be back soon but in the meantime have a safe and happy Xmas and New Year. cheerio
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Post by agile on Dec 22, 2021 19:45:29 GMT 12
I'll just chime in to say big thanks to the forumites (including the lurkers) who have helped us out one way or another and thanks to Dave H for providing us this platform to promote our work. Hope you all have an awesome Christmas.
See you in 2022.
Cheers Alex
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 23, 2021 7:02:16 GMT 12
You're more than welcome Alex. Merry Christmas to the whole team at Ferrymead.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Dec 23, 2021 8:37:20 GMT 12
Great news on the IFF box internals!
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Post by ZacYates on Dec 28, 2021 15:23:18 GMT 12
I may not always comment but each time an update to this thread is posted I read and enjoy it. Thank you so much gents for sharing so much with us.
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Post by denysjones on Dec 31, 2021 14:57:38 GMT 12
The week went so well that the home projects saw more attention than I anticipated so a definitely final for the year wee post comes about. That starter-feathering pump responded well to treatment and now lurks back on the workbench by 2035. There's some minor clean-up work to do on the display Cyclone before I coerce some lucky helper to give a hand to manipulate it into place. They're damned heavy and doing it solo is a bit of a trial. The other project was to replicate a fixture off the front shear beam (read leading edge) of the port centre section. That c/s had the piece in place whereas the starboard one only had the remnants of the attachments. Pretty understandable seeing the port c/s was sitting in the paddock while the starboard c/s had been buried in the cess pool and so it is reasonable that its piece got wiped off in some rough handling in the burial process. These units defy complete explanation as all I know about them is a "what you see is what you get", as per the post on page 26 31st July, as I still don't know what mounts on the little tray they support plus there are two captive nuts on the underside of the top turnover edge. So after some hours of making paper templates, measuring, cutting and bending I've got a pretty reasonable, I think/hope, recreation. They are of course different, as in handed, one side of the a/c to the other. Here they are now in fresh primer, the foreground one is the original port item. Despite how it appears in the photo they are in fact the same length end to end See you all next year.
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Post by denysjones on Jan 9, 2022 15:23:09 GMT 12
Most of the team were back on deck on Saturday itching to get on with the year. During the week Dean dropped me an email saying he'd be down with some books from a deceased estate that we were being given for use, in our library, or to sell for funds. "Some books" turned out to be the entire tray of a Ford Ranger neatly stacked end to end and right up to the tray lip. It'll take a while to process it all but do keep an eye on the Trademe listings of our own Dell-boy, otherwise known as Agile hereon, if you're in the market for some bargains. Dean also gave me another wee treasure he'd picked up in his travels which was this tank. It immediately got me excited as visually it appeared to be the propellor anti-icing tank needed for 2035. This has been on the wants list for a while. There's not a Lockheed parts plate on it just one calling out that it holds 2.7 Imp Gallons of anti-icing Fluid. A dive into the E&M manual told me that the tank should hold 3.75 US Gal or 3.13 Imp Gal...damn it might not be it I thought! I then delved through the Lockheed blueprints index I've been building up and in there found an entry for "propellor anti-icing tank filler" which turned out to be the cap of the filler and showed it to bear the lettering "2.7 Imp Gal". The cap on the tank might yet yield that lettering. Another index entry took me to this drawing which matches the tank exactly visually. I just need to measure it and see if it fits in place to be super sure but I'm pretty sure it is the beast and that the E&M is in error. The tank goes under the floor in the navigator-bomb aimer's den and if you refer to the post on page 19 Sept 6 2020 you'll see the bomb-aiming bench base Dag had furnished me with. In it is a round cut-out and that is to provide access to the tank filler. It's amazing that things like this still lurk about but long may Dean's magpie escapades continue!
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Post by ZacYates on Jan 10, 2022 16:57:24 GMT 12
Great score Denys, excellent work Dean!
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Post by curtiss on Jan 10, 2022 19:31:32 GMT 12
The Australian Hudson manual states " total filling capacity is 2.7 imperial gallons'.
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Post by denysjones on Jan 11, 2022 12:11:18 GMT 12
Thanks Mike.
I'm now wondering if there was a later increase in capacity and if it was specific to the US A-28/A-29/PBO-1 aircraft given that the E&M I have is the US TO. 01-75AB-2.
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Post by curtiss on Jan 12, 2022 9:25:04 GMT 12
Frustratingly, the RAAF manual has no date. It is AP1690A VOL 1. The tank could have been increased in capacity if aircraft were destined for colder climates such as the Aleutians.
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Post by denysjones on Jan 13, 2022 13:37:42 GMT 12
Taking off on a somewhat unusual topic for us going from the hardware side of life to the realms of paperwork.
In the great drop of books last weekend, among many other things, was an extensive collection of NZ Wings magazines. After a couple of hours of sorting and cross checking with what we already held I've arrived at a near complete set covering the time from October 1971 to June 2011 inclusive.
It is minus only January 1973 but I can't swear that it actually exists as it may be they produced December-January 1972-1973 but didn't mark the December cover to show that.
It would also be nice to get January to September 1971 and at least the balance of 2011 for completeness and even perhaps 2012 to the end in 2015.
I think to go back to 1944 (where we hold one month) and through the 1960's where we've a dozen or so would be pushing it!
If anyone can help with please PM me.
cheers
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 13, 2022 13:47:09 GMT 12
Wings began in 1932, so you have a few more to collect yet Denys.
I believe it was the first specialist topic magazine published in New Zealand. I say that because I once heard a magazine historian on the then National Radio talking about the history of magazines in NZ, and he said magazines sold in shops were always a variety of different and widely varying topics up till 1946 when Seaspray began as (what he claimed) New Zealand's first specialist topic magazine. But New Zealand Wings was first published in 1932 and was a specialist topic, and was sold in the shops, not just to club members. They reproduced the cover of the first magazine on the 50th 60th anniversary issue and it clearly had a shop price on the front.
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Post by Antonio on Jan 13, 2022 17:03:43 GMT 12
The RNZAF Museum should have our family's collection of bound volumes of WINGS from 1932 - 1945
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Post by shorty on Jan 13, 2022 21:08:48 GMT 12
Denys, PM sent
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jan 15, 2022 15:54:25 GMT 12
Wings began in 1932, so you have a few more to collect yet Denys. I believe it was the first specialist topic magazine published in New Zealand. I say that because I once heard a magazine historian on the then National Radio talking about the history of magazines in NZ, and he said magazines sold in shops were always a variety of different and widely varying topics up till 1946 when Seaspray began as (what he claimed) New Zealand's first specialist topic magazine. But New Zealand Wings was first published in 1932 and was a specialist topic, and was sold in the shops, not just to club members. They reproduced the cover of the first magazine on the 50th anniversary issue and it clearly had a shop price on the front. Not so sure about that. Herewith the front cover of issue 1 of "Wings - the NZ Air Journal", which shows a bookshop price of one shilling. Date is July 1929. This periodical, which only ran for four or five issues due to lack of advertising, was not related to the later 'Wings' magazine, and was retitled simply 'The NZ Air Journal' from issue 2.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 15, 2022 16:33:51 GMT 12
Well Peter, I was not aware of that earlier magazine, but the New Zealand Wings issue dated August 1992 is the one that had the cover of the first issue of Wings (August 1932) on it. This is an Anniversary Special, and on pages 14 and 15 it has special messages of congratulations for 60 years of publishing from the Minister of Transport Rob Storey, the Chief of Air Staff AVM Peter Adamson, and the Chief Executive of Air New Zealand Jim McCrea. On pages 16 to 19, Alan Vause has an article about the development of NZ aviation through the six decades that Wings had been published, talking about the big stories that Wings had been reporting on. So it seems it was continuously in print from August 1932 up till whenever it was that it sadly collapsed and died. But yes, perhaps your magazine is indeed the contender for the earliest specialist publication in the shops, three years before. NZ Wings was on;y sixpence in 1932, so cheaper to buy and with adverts.
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Post by planewriting on Jan 15, 2022 20:34:46 GMT 12
Well, the Wings magazine of 1929 which Peter has displayed here certainly precedes the Wings magazine of 1932. How odd that almost no-one these days was aware of the earlier publication despite so few editions being printed. Peter, do you have access to all four or five issues?
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