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Post by johnnyfalcon on Oct 27, 2022 7:18:27 GMT 12
Looks like it doesn't have any seats to me...
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Post by xbaggy on Oct 27, 2022 7:37:24 GMT 12
Looks like it doesn't have any seats to me... In the lower photo looks like a T55 Cockpit. The T11 had a U shaped canopy with the sides wrapping round and down to the cockpit coaming. The T55 entrance was just a hatch in the roof. |
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Post by Antonio on Oct 27, 2022 8:13:43 GMT 12
it definitely does look like the one I saw and does look like a T.11. I agree it is a two seater but I think it is a T55 which didn't have ejection seats like the T11. Agreed. A T.55 |
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Oct 27, 2022 9:32:03 GMT 12
Talk about Vampire fix! We haven't got to November yet!!
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Post by davidd on Oct 27, 2022 10:28:11 GMT 12
Note that the dual seat Vampires T.11 (RAF version) and T.55 (Export version), although powered by different versions of the DH Goblin turbojet, were generally pretty similar in most respects (at least externally). However, at a certain point in production, ejection seats plus a much larger, fully-opening canopy (rather than the original, tiny top-hatch) were introduced, along with the later, more stream-lined style of fin/rudder surfaces were introduced. In some air forces, certain early version Vampires (solo at least, not so certain on the duals) were later retrofitted with ejection seats, etc. but not in the RNZAF (although this possibility did receive some study). I think all dual-control Vampires had the outboard extensions of their tailplane, while all single seaters just had the "acorn" streamlined fairing in this location. Consequently, it is sometimes impossible to know which version of Vampire you are looking at, apart from the obvious fact of the number of seats fitted!
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 11, 2022 11:12:41 GMT 12
Vampire T55 NZ5703, remains now with Philp Burns? Unknown date/place.  |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 12, 2022 10:35:32 GMT 12
Vampire T55 NZ5704 pod at the Air Force Museum 5Jan2011  |
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Post by denysjones on Nov 12, 2022 20:07:56 GMT 12
I believe that Phil Burns has divested himself of his aviation materials, certainly lots came up on TradeMe a couple of years back, and has transferred his interests to steam matters.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 13, 2022 8:12:23 GMT 12
Vampire T11 NZ5707 at Whenuapai 10May1965  and on display at the Ashburton museum 3Jan2011  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2022 12:01:41 GMT 12
I believe that Phil Burns has divested himself of his aviation materials Thank you for that, Denys. |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 14, 2022 19:08:38 GMT 12
Vampitre T11 NZ5708 now in Indonesia air force museumAt the opening of the new Rotorua airfield 3Oct1964  at Ohakea Jan1973 (from a highly overexposed slide)  |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 15, 2022 19:02:09 GMT 12
Vampire T11 NZ5709 at Wigram 28Aug1964 now with Jacobs?  |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 16, 2022 11:13:39 GMT 12
Vampire T11 NZ5710 at the New Plymouth airport opening 3Mar1967 now with AFMNZ |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 18, 2022 21:25:42 GMT 12
Vampire FB52 NZ5732 at Asplin's garage, Rukuhuia, 16Dec1967 (with the nose of my Fiat 500 just creeping into the bottom left of the picture). now with Don Subritzky |
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Post by madmax on Nov 18, 2022 22:56:13 GMT 12
Reckon you wish you still had the Fiat now - or have you?
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Nov 19, 2022 6:18:52 GMT 12
Were you going to tow the Vampire home, Peter? If John Smith could do it with his Morris...
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 19, 2022 21:19:43 GMT 12
The Fiat was my first new car, bought after I tired of 'old bombs'. 699 pounds new from Town and Country Cars of Auckland early in 1967. One of the very few cars available in NZ at that time that you could buy new without either having overseas funds, getting matey with the dealer, or sitting on a lenghty waiting list for years and years.
By Government edict you had to come up with at least 50% of the price up front and pay off the other 50% in no more than 12 months. I did that, and then immediatly sold it and bought an MG Midget.
The 500 could do 59 mph on the flat and a little more than that downhill with a tail wind. To pass another car on the open highway you had to find a downhill curve to the right. Acceleration was not its forte, and I was certainly never tempted to try towing anything.
The upside was that petrol then was 3 shillings and sixpence - 35 cents - per gallon!
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Post by Peter Lewis on Nov 19, 2022 21:26:36 GMT 12
Vampire FB52 NZ5734 at Hobsonville 12May1964 during its time as INST184 (but painted up as INSTNZ5734). now with Ross Jowitt |
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Post by madmax on Nov 19, 2022 23:50:02 GMT 12
Ah, yes, the dreaded overseas funds stumbling block to ownership of a new car. In 1970 i was hopefull of purchasing a new MGB convertible from MG dealer Stewart Greer Motors in Hastings but a lack of o/s funds put paid to that for a short while until a near new second hand model came on the market. At $3990 i suspect I paid more than the new price but was happy to do so to get the vehicle i desired. Fifty two years on I still owm an MG convrrtible, not the original car I purchased however, I've had about a dozen others over the intervening years
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Nov 20, 2022 7:38:01 GMT 12
The Fiat was my first new car, bought after I tired of 'old bombs'. 699 pounds new from Town and Country Cars of Auckland early in 1967. Now take note children, here is the lesson: For 699 quid this man could have bought how many P-40s or F4Us in the adjacent paddock? And how much would they be worth today compared to his Bambina? (sigh) |
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