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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 4, 2007 19:57:05 GMT 12
Yup. I thought it worth asking just in case.
I went through an entire collection of photos at the local museum of the Athletics club which is right nextdoor to the Walsh's old house. Not a single one had it in the background sadly.
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Post by mumbles on Mar 10, 2007 13:45:42 GMT 12
Just revisiting this topic, here is the Hudson fuselage section at Ohakea last week.
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Post by Richard Wesley on Feb 2, 2008 22:28:43 GMT 12
My very late two cents worth on the discussion…
The large wheels leaning up against the side of the hudson fuselage look like HP Hastings to me. I feel like I should be able to recognise the front ones too?
Interesting that the Messerschmidtt met its end in the south island. I wonder how the Me109 prop hub ended up at Motat? Maybe it’s not from that aircraft as I always assumed…?
I think Frank Bish was the pilot of the Corsair at the Hamilton 1966 opening, when I worked with him at Motat I remember that he always smiled slyly when asked about whether he let the wheels leave the ground that day.
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Post by alanw on Feb 2, 2008 22:52:57 GMT 12
Hi Peter/Dave
The Corsair, do you know if it was a F4U-1D or an FG-1D?
Also a curious note and if you might know the answer, the small crescent shaped fairing/bump aft of the tail wheel was this for this aircraft or was it a Kiwi RNZAF mod?
Reason I ask, is I want to build a 1/32 Corsair FG-1D (post war) and want to get it correct
TIA
Alan
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Post by corsair67 on Feb 2, 2008 23:55:49 GMT 12
Alan, it is an FG-1D, and is better known by its real identity of NZ5648: Not sure about the tailwheel fairing though!
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Post by alanw on Feb 3, 2008 0:11:29 GMT 12
Hi Corsair67 Thanks for that ;D The reason I ask about the fairing, is Peter Mossong's site shows diagrams sans fairing (which imo looks much nicer) rnzaf.hobbyvista.com/14sqcol.htmregards Alan
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Post by corsair67 on Feb 3, 2008 0:18:30 GMT 12
I think that on most, if not all, Corsairs the fairing was built onto the tailwheel/arrestor hook doors, and came together when the doors closed.
Not really sure of its purpose either, as you can't really call it a streamline fairing when it is located behind the wheel! ;D
This particular FG-1D doesn't even seem to have the cutout to the rear of the tailwheel where the tailhook would normally rest when in flight.
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Post by shorty on Jul 27, 2008 17:09:33 GMT 12
Having just re-read tgis thread I thought I would resurrect it and add to it. It was stated that:
"So, let me get this straight, was NZ2084 definately one of the two Asplin Garage X and Y airframes, and definately the fuselage that K. Pennell is reported in NZ Wings as donating to the RNZAF Musuem, and definately the one that was in the TV show, and the one that went to the gallery and has disappeared? All things seem to point that way."
Nigel's aircraft was given to him in payment for some mural work he did at the AF Museum and was installed in the Aviators Gallery as the building was being constructed. The section of skin by the cockpit where all the data was stencilled had been removed before he got it from the museum. When his business there was shut down he asked me to de-rivet the fuselage into three lengthwise pieces so we could pass it down the stairwell. These bits were then taken to my property at Greta Valley and stored there. When I sold that property he removed it to another storage site at Waikari which is where it is now. Hope this adds to the general information. (Still would like to see a photo of the "caravan" Hudson when it was in Dunedin.)
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 27, 2008 17:48:21 GMT 12
Thanks very much Shorty for confirming that aircraft/fuselage is still in existence and is safe.
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Post by Radialicious on Jul 27, 2008 21:17:59 GMT 12
I'm with Richard regarding those big wheels. Hastings was the first type that entered my mind when I saw them in that photo. I remember that Sea Urchins programme when it aired. For some reason I remember Temuera Morrison being involved. Maybe, maybe not. I was supremely jealous at the time seeing these maori boys diving the wreck and playing pilots in the cockpit.
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Post by Radialicious on Jul 27, 2008 21:26:40 GMT 12
...and with regard to the debate of the fairing aft of the tailwheel, IMHO, an important part of streamlining is how to best return the relative airflow to its surrounding air. If the wheel, or parts of it, were to sit in the airflow, a certain amount of eddying would occur behind the wheel. This eddy causes drag. To put a fairing in its place removes the area that could form and support an eddy and therefore drag.
Yes/No?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 28, 2008 0:11:10 GMT 12
I'm with Richard regarding those big wheels. Hastings was the first type that entered my mind when I saw them in that photo. I remember that Sea Urchins programme when it aired. For some reason I remember Temuera Morrison being involved. Maybe, maybe not. I was supremely jealous at the time seeing these maori boys diving the wreck and playing pilots in the cockpit. A web search some time ago found a remark that suggested a very young Robbie Rakete was in this series, so I emailed him via his Auckland radio station email to ask but he never replied. When TVNZ recently released Under The Mountain on DVD (which is awesome) I wrote to their DVD department and thanked them for doing so and asked if other classics were to come out. They said yes, but didn't know exactly what yet as they were still deciding. So I suggested The Sea Urchins and they said they'd consider it and the other things I listed (which included The Mad Dog Gang films, remember them!?).
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Post by 43willys on Aug 26, 2008 17:39:21 GMT 12
The photo of the Hudson is definetly at Asplins garage. i only live 2 miles down the road from there and have spent many hours mucking around in his sheds. When i was going there in the 70's, the fuselage was sitting around the back of one of his sheds with another Hudson fuselage next to it. they were both there up untill 1978. i remember trying to remove the gun sight that sits out in front of the cockpit (you can just make it out in the photo).
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 26, 2008 21:04:17 GMT 12
Do you have any idea what happened to them? I am suspecting that one of them miht be the Hudson that went on to star in an episode of The Sea Urchins and then later made it to the RNZAF Museum, who later traded it to an art dealer. I don't know if it is the same fuselage though.
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Post by tbf25o4 on Aug 27, 2008 14:05:52 GMT 12
At least one of the hudson fueslages made it to the RNZAF musuem
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 27, 2008 15:26:23 GMT 12
Thanks Paul, just as I thought. Does anyone have photos of that fuselage at Wigram? I took photos of NZ2013 while it was being restored, but despite looking over NZ20?? fuselage I stupidly never photographed it.
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