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Post by conman on Jun 20, 2016 23:56:50 GMT 12
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Post by suthg on Jun 21, 2016 7:45:59 GMT 12
In the top photo - I often wondered about the weather conditions close to a cold front moving through - air colder, less thermals, more wind shear and variable gusty conditions - a bit more caution perhaps? The sun was behind the photographer's back, perhaps conditions had been much better earlier on? And that was the close of the day... nice photo, greens of grass... The second photo - what a contrast, and obviously a delightful day to go flying, no dust particles to haze up the sky, nice and clear - great views!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 21, 2016 15:20:39 GMT 12
Nice shots. Where is the airfield? Is that Drury?
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Post by The Red Baron on Jun 21, 2016 16:17:33 GMT 12
Gosh I must be getting old,I can remember the original ZK-GBF,it was a Ka6BR with jettisonable wheels..I can also remember when Auckland Gliding Club bought the Pawnee CEB..
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Post by conman on Jun 21, 2016 23:07:52 GMT 12
Nice shots. Where is the airfield? Is that Drury? Yes at Drury waiting for the squalls to go through
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Post by conman on Jun 21, 2016 23:09:57 GMT 12
Gosh I must be getting old,I can remember the original ZK-GBF,it was a Ka6BR with jettisonable wheels..I can also remember when Auckland Gliding Club bought the Pawnee CEB.. Yes the original BF came to an untimely end when the wings folded up inflight , hopefully we won't suffer the same problem
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Post by The Red Baron on Jun 22, 2016 10:11:46 GMT 12
Yes that was a lucky escape.Tony Timmermans used to drive the original BF back in the day,is he still active?.
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Post by noooby on Jun 22, 2016 10:40:33 GMT 12
You could at least look at the camera and smile Conal!
suthg, blue sky can be (is a lot of the time) the enemy of the glider pilot! It can often indicate a stable air mass, which means that while air won't be going down much, it also won't be going up!
Cold fronts can bring good soaring weather as they push through. Nice and unstable air masses to generate good thermals. As the front passes it isn't nice, but afterwards it is often great.
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Post by planewriting on Jun 24, 2016 21:53:47 GMT 12
Tony Timmermans was no longer the owner and neither was he flying it when the GBF shed its wings near Waipawa on 28 December 1982. That glider was a Ka6B not a Ka6Br. The difference being the "r" model had a conventional wheel such as on GLX whereas GBF had a dolly wheel. I recall the occasion when someone took off at Ardmore and forgot to release the dolly wheel. I was running the Auckland Gliding Club's control van and in radio contact with the tower. I heard a controller call the glider pilot in GBF and point out the error of their ways. They promptly released from tow and did a circuit with a high speed approach to release the dolly and pull sharply to avoid having it bounce up into the fuselage.
The Auckland Gliding Club bought ZK-CEB in 1968 however Piako Gliding Club bought their Pawnee ZK-BZA back in 1967. Those two faithful workhorses deserve a celebration in due course to mark their 50 years with their respective owners.
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Post by madmax on Jul 19, 2016 19:14:27 GMT 12
Anyone know the current whereabouts/status of Pawnee ZK-BWS? Last I heard it was with Rotorua GC but I'm told its moved on from there.
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Post by planewriting on Jul 19, 2016 20:53:53 GMT 12
ZK-BWS has been registered to Aero Test Services which has a Levin postal address. I last saw that Pawnee at Masterton I believe at the 2015 Wings over Wairarapa Air Show when it was parked next to the Avro Anson near the entry to the show. I've done many an aero tow behind ZK-BWS including several double tows . . . interesting to say the least.
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Post by madmax on Jul 19, 2016 23:05:52 GMT 12
Thanks for that, planewriting
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Post by kevsmith on Aug 30, 2016 0:30:52 GMT 12
A bit of personal history re the PA25 Pawnee ZK-BWS. The Auckland Gliding Club purchased this aircraft in April 1965 and I picked it up from Hamilton on the 13th of Aril 1964 and flew it home to Ardmore. It was powered by a carburetted Lycoming 0-320 with a fixed pitch prop. It had a single Fibre Glass fuel tank centrally mounted ahead of the pilot and behind the engine. It was recognised at that time that the fibre glass fuel tank was a hazard in the event of an accident and the Club had a Stainless Steel tank made up to replace the fibre glass tank. I believe that all subsequent PA25's that came to NZ were fitted with wingtip tanks. I was "checked out" on the PA25 by Ian Palmer, CFI of the Rotorua Aero Club on PA25-180 ZK-BWU a 180HP Pawnee, on the 12th of April 1965 and was henceforth "qualified" to ferry the 150HP BWS home to Ardmore the next day from Hamilton. BWU was a side by side dual control machine. I recall the late Don Rowlands flew me to Rukuhia from Ardmore in an Auster J1B to pick up ZK-BWS. I never flew it again!
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Post by planewriting on Sept 3, 2016 22:46:39 GMT 12
Would the Auster have been Morrie Green's ZK-AYO by any chance?
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Post by kevsmith on Sept 8, 2016 2:23:08 GMT 12
PWriting Yes it would have been Morrie Green's Auster - it was the only one at Ardmore back then. Don Rowlands was one of a very few that Morrie let fly it. We also went to New Plymouth in it when the Club bought the DH82 AIA which I flew home to Ardmore on the 2nd of Feb 1964 (a Sunday I recall). I don't think Morrie flew the Auster much himself, if at all. When I wrote the previous post re BWS I was aware it was Morrie's Auster (as it was generally known) that we went in but I couldn't remember the reg!! Thanks for reminding me! I guess you were/are an AGC member. Would you like to PM me to let me know who you are to test my memory?
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