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Post by hairy on Aug 27, 2008 20:14:26 GMT 12
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Post by fletcherfu24 on Aug 27, 2008 20:29:25 GMT 12
There was also a Sunderland at Whangarei in the '70s...I think it was eventually burned/scrapped.
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Post by hairy on Aug 27, 2008 20:29:57 GMT 12
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Post by Bruce on Aug 27, 2008 21:26:50 GMT 12
Those cats and Sunderlands must have been doing some serious flying to get that sort of storm damage!
Great pics of '4055 as well, They will be very useful when I come to build my 1/72 model Boeing cat - I want to do '4055 due to the links with Wellsford, my "ancestral home".
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Post by hairy on Aug 27, 2008 21:36:48 GMT 12
Those cats and Sunderlands must have been doing some serious flying to get that sort of storm damage! Judging by the skid-marks in the picture below NZ4102 travelled a fair way before hitting the Cat.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Aug 27, 2008 22:18:33 GMT 12
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Post by shamus on Apr 4, 2009 14:11:31 GMT 12
Here's what you've been waiting for. Don Subritzky took these photos of the Catalina in Wellsford in 1968.
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Post by Tonys18 on Apr 4, 2009 14:27:53 GMT 12
And once again I am amazed at these nice photos! ;D. How do we get in contact with this Don Subritzky? Sounds like he has about 3 boxes of photos! Could you Privite message me. Or put it up on the forum mate!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 4, 2009 16:58:51 GMT 12
Thanks very much indeed for those excellent photos Shamus (and Don). What a treasure to have sitting in your back yard like that, and what a shame it never survived.
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Post by 43willys on Apr 4, 2009 20:25:18 GMT 12
Heres another photo of MOTAT's Catalina, looks like it was taken a bit earlier than the other photo on the top of pg 2. The second photo shows the rear fuselage at my parents house in Hamilton.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 4, 2009 20:56:16 GMT 12
Wow, there's a story in that second photo Mike. Please tell.
Is that the crashed DC-8 engine behind the TAA Catalina in the first shot?
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Post by shorty on Apr 4, 2009 22:25:15 GMT 12
I was transitting through Port Moresby in a C 130 en route to RAF Changi in 1965 and saw the TAA Catalina there the day after it's last flight. I didn't have a camera at the time (Iwas waiting to get to Singapore to buy a flash new Pentax SV) but I did take some 8mm movie film of it (also of the Southern Cross at Brisbane on the way) I have no idea how I could get any images from 8mm to the forum. Later the Cat was moved to Jackson Field and given to MOTAT. Some time shortly after the Jackson Field fire crew wooden heads thought it woul be a good idea to set fire to it so they could then put the fire out. This only happened the once before they were informed, rather forcibly, that it wasn't theirs to play with! However a fair bit of damage had already been done to it. I have some newspaper cuttings about it also.
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Post by 43willys on Apr 4, 2009 22:37:34 GMT 12
Dad was a volunteer for the Aviation section of MOTAT. Being that we lived in Hamilton, we spent most of our free time gathering aircraft parts from farms and peoples sheds. There was still huge quantity's of parts around in the 70's. Dad had also started to work on bits of the Catalina for MOTAT. Unfortunately dad passed away in 1979. So alot of his projects were never finished.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 5, 2009 13:59:10 GMT 12
It would be really nice to see the Catalina completed someday. I guess it is a good thing that it moved to Wigram from MOTAT otherwise their new hangar extension might have had to be twice as large.
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Post by Richard Wesley on Apr 10, 2009 6:03:35 GMT 12
What a great lot of stories. It is very interesting to see the early photos of Motat's cat before it was passed to the RNZAF. I ceratinly heard of fire damage, though have never seen or heard of any wing section for it. Having recently flown on Ardmore Catalina ZK-CAT I now realise that much of the rear part of a Catalina wing is fabric covered and wouldn't survive even a small practice fire well at all.
I'm amazed that there was another Catalina example just up the road in Northland, even as Motat was saving its example?!?! I'm suprised that Don only took a photo and didn't load it on the roof rack, maybe there are still more stories to be uncovered.
If you every think of any way of getting your 8mm film into digital that footage you have would be great to see Shorty.
That is the DC8 engine in the background of one of the photos Dave, very good spotting. It remained in this state until the early 1990's when an engine sand was obtained for it, and now further work has been carried out reducing it to basicly only the basic undamaged interior engine. I heard it was donated/aquired by Motat on the understanding that it not be connected to the Air NZ crash for fear of bad publicity.
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