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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 9:55:59 GMT 12
I thought this deserved its own thread. Most of us are by now aware that several of the foreign vessels and aircraft here as guests for the RNZN's 75th anniversary celebrations have been re-deployed to assist in the recovery and aid efforts following Monday morning's earthquake. Going by news stories online this morning the foreign military support component seems to be: - USN: destroyer USS Sampson w/2 MH-60R Seahawks, expected to arrive off Kaikoura early Thursday morning; P-3 Orion from VP47 in Hawaii - RAN: guided missile frigate HMAS Darwin w/Seahawk, expected to arrive off Kaikoura Wednesday evening - RCN: frigate HMCS Vancouver (Wiki says it hangars a CH-124 sea King), expected to arrive off Kaikoura early Thursday morning - Malaysia: has offered a helo - Japan and Singapore: "offers of help" Gerry Brownlee was quoted as saying: “It’s heartening to see overseas partners so willing to alter their plans and offer their assistance. The International Naval Review is all about celebrating 75 years of the Royal New Zealand Navy and the bonds it has forged globally. Despite the changes to the planned celebrations, it’s poignant to see the anniversary marked with such co-operation and camaraderie.” Some photos at the MRC Aviation blog of USN Orion 158563, which has already been in action above Kaikoura: mrcaviation.blogspot.co.nz/2016/11/united-states-navy-arrivals-and.html
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Nov 16, 2016 10:44:45 GMT 12
Gerry Brownlee was quoted as saying: “It’s heartening to see overseas partners so willing to alter their plans and offer their assistance. The International Naval Review is all about celebrating 75 years of the Royal New Zealand Navy and the bonds it has forged globally. Despite the changes to the planned celebrations, it’s poignant to see the anniversary marked with such co-operation and camaraderie.” Maybe the RNZN should move the Fleet Review ceremony to the Kaikoura coast?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 12:44:28 GMT 12
I missed it earlier: Stuff quoted the PM yesterday as saying the Malaysians have offered "a helicopter" to assist.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 15:12:19 GMT 12
Posted by Stuff moments ago: The NZDF forces currently at Kaikoura will be joined over the next 24 hours by Australian, Canadian and United States warships with their embarked helicopters.
The helicopters will be able to be used for a variety of tasks including personnel and stores transfer, and conducting critical needs assessment of isolated communities.
In total, the ships that are yet to arrive are carrying four helicopters, which will be added to the existing NZDF helicopters operating from land and sea.
Surveillance aircraft from Japan and the United States have also been made available to conduct aerial reconnaissance of quake-damaged areas.
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I'm guessing that last sentence means the VP-47 Orion has been joined by one/both JMDF P-1s?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2016 17:12:26 GMT 12
From Stuff again: Embassy of Japan, November 16 2016
"In light of the magnitude 7.5 earthquake in the early hours of Monday, the Government of Japan, upon request from the Government of New Zealand, has decided to dispatch one Japan Maritime Self Defence Forces P-1 surveillance aircraft currently visiting New Zealand as a Japan Disaster Relief Team (JSDF Unit) to assist in recovery efforts by the New Zealand Defence Force."
The P-1 aircraft, which is based in the RNZAF Base in Whenuapai, Auckland, (has )already conducted its first flight in the Kaikoura region yesterday, 15 November, from around 5 pm to 9 pm, providing the counterparts in the New Zealand recovery effort with surveillance footage necessary for swift and accurate damage and relief.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 7:43:48 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 9:53:25 GMT 12
Stuff: An update on the naval situation in Kaikoura from Jack Fletcher:
Ships from Australia, Canada and the United States are now stationed off the Kaikoura Coast.
The HMAS Darwin arrived late on Wednesday night and the HMCS Vancouver and USS Sampson cruised in early Thursday morning.
Air Commodore Darryn Webb, Acting Commander Joint Forces New Zealand, said on Wednesday the ships would provide support to the isolated coastal town.
“The Sampson is a warship and it has two embarked anti-submarine helicopters, which are not so set up to carry people, so we want to use those to assist in any way we can, probably to move stuff - loads of water, fuel, essential supplies,” Webb said.
“The Vancouver has quite a capable helicopter, a sea king, probably the most capable one we will have available to us, so we will be able to carry a number of people as well as sling supplies underneath to carry in.”
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Post by TS on Nov 17, 2016 13:09:45 GMT 12
Air Commodore Darryn Webb, Acting Commander Joint Forces New Zealand, said on Wednesday the ships would provide support to the isolated coastal town. “The Sampson is a warship and it has two embarked anti-submarine helicopters, which are not so set up to carry people, so we want to use those to assist in any way we can, probably to move stuff - loads of water, fuel, essential supplies,” Webb said. “The Vancouver has quite a capable helicopter, a sea king, probably the most capable one we will have available to us, so we will be able to carry a number of people as well as sling supplies underneath to carry in.” So is the Air Commodore saying that our NH90's are not as good? Should we have Sea Kings instead??? Oooops....
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 17, 2016 13:19:52 GMT 12
Do you mean NH90's? And no he's not saying that.
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Post by TS on Nov 17, 2016 13:37:08 GMT 12
Reads like that...“The Vancouver has quite a capable helicopter, a sea king, probably the most capable one we will have available to us, so we will be able to carry a number of people as well as sling supplies underneath to carry in.”
Correction done (digit slip)
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 17, 2016 13:55:10 GMT 12
He might be saying the Sea King is most capable for the role, he's not saying we should have bought them. Sea Kings are ancient technology, most air forces are retiring them.
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Post by ErrolC on Nov 17, 2016 14:12:16 GMT 12
If there was a Chinook available we would be using it, doesn't mean that buying two instead of 8(?) NH90s would have been a smart move.
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Post by chis73 on Nov 17, 2016 15:11:08 GMT 12
Short videos of the Canadian Sea King,Australian & US Seahawk helicopters arriving in Kaikoura on the NZDF Twitter page, including a short interview with the Sampson's captain. linkCan't help but think that NZ urgently needs helos of this size operable from HMNZS Canterbury and, in future, the new tanker. Something that can move a useful number of people and lift a decent sling-load. Third time now such a capability would have been useful in two years (Vanuatu, Fiji, now Kaikoura)! Either marinise the NH90s (or buy some more that are ship-capable) or look to acquire some Seahawks for 6 SQN (preferably MH-60S, or perhaps ex-RAN S-70B-2s stripped of their ASW gear). Not wanting to criticize, since they've done a great job, but did Canterbury sail all the way from Auckland with just one Seasprite on-board?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 7:27:28 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 10:43:52 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2016 12:32:27 GMT 12
NZDF photos of HMAS Darwin's Seahawk transferring supplies:
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Post by ErrolC on Nov 18, 2016 22:56:22 GMT 12
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Post by ErrolC on Nov 19, 2016 10:40:01 GMT 12
@cfoperations: #HMCSVancouver and Sea King work with multinational Task Group to aid #EQNZ - helping to deliver 13,000 kg of food and supplies #BravoZulu pic.twitter.com/XvqISyrrQq
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Post by ErrolC on Nov 19, 2016 20:32:27 GMT 12
@cdf_NZ: Greeted off Kaikoura by HMAS Darwins cultural group strong ANZAC bonds in action. @nznavy @australian_Navy @nzdefenceforce
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Post by ErrolC on Nov 19, 2016 20:41:22 GMT 12
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