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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 16, 2007 23:32:12 GMT 12
Some of you will have seen my webpages dedicated to the RNZAF Musuem and its history that I'm building up. I'd like to eventually do the same thing for another great NZ aicraft collection, the one at the Museum of Transport and Technology. I want to establish just which aircraft they currently have and which aircraft have been loaned to or owned and sold from the collection too. So here's my first attempt at a list? Currently in the collection:Avro Lancaster NX665 (not owned by Motat) Auster of some sort Commonwealth Ceres ZK-  Curtiss P-40E Kittyhawk NZ3039 DH82 Tiger Moth NZ? DH83 Fox Moth ZK- DH89 Dragon Rapide ZK-AGT DH Mosquito NZ??? DH Vampire FB.9 WR202 Douglas Dakota ZK-BQK Grumman Avenger Locheed Hudson NZ2031 Lockheed Lodestar ZK-BVE Lockheed Lexington NZ4600 Lockheed 10a Electra ZK-BUT Lockheed 10a Electra ZK-AFD (fuselage only) Mignet Flying Flea ZM-AAA Miles Gemini Miles Magister NA Harvard NZ944 Pearse Monoplane Ryan STM ZK-STM (flying) Short Solent ZK-AMO Short Sunderland NZ4115 Replicas in the CollectionHawker Hurricane Fairey Swordfish Tui Sports Formerly With the collection - owned or loanedCurtiss P-40E NZ3009 - now Old Stick and Rudder Co. FG-1D Corsair NZ - Now Old Stick and Rudder Co. FG-1D Corsair NZ Vildebeest III NZ1?? - to RNZAF Museum Hawker Hind NZ? - to Subritzky collection? DH84 Dragon - to Catalina - to RNZAF Museum Auster Antarctic - to RNZAF Museum P-39 Aircobra - now with TFC P-47 Thunderbolt - with Rob Greinert Bristol Beaufort? - was this with Motat? I know I have missed a lot of the collection, what have I missed (including replicas, civvie stuff, gliders, etc)? Also any photos and stories would be most welcome for this project. It will be laid out much like the RNZAF Musuem pages on my site. Cheers. |
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Post by corsair67 on Aug 17, 2007 14:32:17 GMT 12
Westland Wasp NZ??02.
I took a few (mainly quite poor) photos last year, and I'll post a few shortly for you, Dave.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 17, 2007 14:39:39 GMT 12
Ah yes, that's the RNZN Museum's Wasp, on loan till they build somewhere big enough to house it. Thanks Craig.
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Post by Naki on Aug 17, 2007 14:43:01 GMT 12
Beech Kansen?
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Post by corsair67 on Aug 17, 2007 15:11:21 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 17, 2007 15:20:13 GMT 12
Great stuff, thanks Craig. I never thought to look at my photos, will do that now.
You've got some superb shots there, well done
This adds a number of details to my list - including the Kansan, thanks Paul.
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Post by Naki on Aug 17, 2007 15:23:35 GMT 12
Ahh yes the Airtruck - what is the biplane hanging from the roof (Gere Sport?) and the other homebuilt?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 17, 2007 15:40:49 GMT 12
My list now stands at: In the CollectionAESL Airtourer ZK-CXU Avro Lancaster NX665 (not owned by Motat) Auster ZK-BWH Cessna Agwagon ?? (I think that's what it is, or Pawnee?) Commonwealth Ceres ZK-BPU Curtiss P-40E Kittyhawk NZ3039 DH82 Tiger Moth NZ775 "46" DH82 Tiger Moth ZK-ANN DH83 Fox Moth ZK-AEK DH89 Dragon Rapide ZK-AGT (painted as ZK-AHS) DH Mosquito NZ??? DH Vampire FB.9 WR202 Douglas Dakota ZK-BQK Grumman Avenger James Aviation Turbo Fletcher prototype Locheed Hudson NZ2031 Lockheed Lodestar ZK-BVE Lockheed Lexington NZ4600 Lockheed 10a Electra ZK-BUT Lockheed 10a Electra ZK-AFD (fuselage only) Mignet Flying Flea ZM-AAA Miles Gemini Miles Magister NA Harvard NZ944 Pearse V-STOL Ryan STM ZK-STM (flying) Short Solent ZK-AMO Short Sunderland NZ4115 Westland Wasp (on loan from RNZN Museum) Link Trainer Part-airframesDouglas DC-8 engine Handley Page Hastings cockpit, engines and wheels Replicas in the CollectionPearse Monoplane replica Hawker Hurricane Fairey Swordfish Tui Sports very early glider replica hanging by Tiger Moth Formerly With the collection - owned or loanedCurtiss P-40E NZ3009 - now Old Stick and Rudder Co. FG-1D Corsair NZ - Now Old Stick and Rudder Co. FG-1D Corsair NZ Vildebeest III NZ1?? - to RNZAF Museum Hawker Hind NZ? - to Subritzky collection? DH84 Dragon - to Catalina - to RNZAF Museum Auster Antarctic - to RNZAF Museum P-39 Aircobra - now with TFC P-47 Thunderbolt - with Rob Greinert Bristol Beaufort? - was this with Motat? A third Tiger Moth which has disappeared? What are: -The red plane hanging from the ceiling in Craig's shots? - The red and white plane beside it hanging above the Electra? - details of the Gyrocopter? -The glider that hangs vertically, nose downwards, on the wall in front of the DH89? - The twin boomed topdrsser? Is it an Airtruk? What have I missed? Thanks |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 17, 2007 15:42:46 GMT 12
Thanks Paul, so it is an Airtruck? They were made by Panavia was it?
And yes, Gere Sport does ring a bell, is that right?
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Post by Bruce on Aug 17, 2007 15:59:41 GMT 12
The little red biplane is a Gere sport, and the airtruck is Made by Transavia. I do have the name of the other homebuilt somewhere, i'll find it tonight. There is also that odd man- powered machine visible as well - the one with the clear mylar covering.
I dont think that Fox mothe is really AEK - I think it is a replica?
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Post by Naki on Aug 17, 2007 16:10:29 GMT 12
The Airtruck pictured was made by Transavia - Panavia (BAe,MBB, Aertalia consortium) made the Tornado combat aircraft (it would be interesting seeing a Tornado topdressing the back paddock!)
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Post by corsair67 on Aug 17, 2007 16:55:40 GMT 12
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Post by fletcherfu24 on Aug 17, 2007 17:23:57 GMT 12
Do they have an Fletcher in the collection,a long time ago when I was last there they had a disassembled FU-24 300hp,which I assumed from the colour scheme was Barr Bros ZK-BIB?,it had no reg painted on it or visible serial,but seems to have disappeared in the mists of time.
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Post by Bruce on Aug 17, 2007 17:55:08 GMT 12
That odd homebuilt with the high mounted engine is called an Ace Sky - Skooter
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Post by John L on Aug 17, 2007 18:07:28 GMT 12
Didn't Stan Smith get the Dragon?
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Post by Kereru on Aug 17, 2007 23:00:15 GMT 12
Some of you might remember or maybe were involved with the two prototype Airtruck's that were built in NZ using Harvard components. I got a shot of the second prototype the Pellarini PL-11 Airtruck on A.net. www.airliners.net/open.file/0277578/L/If you look down to the left corner of this photo I took at Motat you will see a model of the Harvard engined prototype. www.airliners.net/open.file/0762816/L/Colin |
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Post by Bruce on Aug 17, 2007 23:05:39 GMT 12
I got a shot of the second prototype the Pellarini PL-11 Airtruck on A.net Thats a familiar aircraft registration....  |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Aug 18, 2007 9:15:02 GMT 12
A few notes:
Tiger "ZK-ANN" is actually AIN: "Dismantled & stored Ardmore Oct58. To MoTAT, rebuilt with parts of 'BJH for display as ZK-ANN"
MoTAT have acquired several Tigers over the years, and the parentage of the one marked NZ775 is said to be ZK-BAD but that could be uncertain, BJH and BME have also been involved
The Fox AEK is a Myles Robertson new-builld fuselage that Stan Smith swapped to get APT from MoTAT - should really be in you replicas list
Rapide AGT of course legally became AHS
The Mosquito should be T.Mk43 NZ2305
Gemini is Arthur Baker's ZK-ANT
The Magister is a M.14A Hawk Trainer III ZK-AYW rebuilt with parts of ZK-ALO and displayed as L8353
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 18, 2007 12:23:45 GMT 12
Thanks everyone. There's actualy a lot more aircraft there in the collection than I realised, and some great history to most of them. This will be a fun project putting it all together.
Is it ok to use your photos Craig please?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 18, 2007 18:25:26 GMT 12
Did Motat own the Anson/s that are now with the Subritzky collection? Was there some connection there?
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