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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 16:29:05 GMT 12
I was wondering if the historians on this forum would have knowledge of one Marama Tahu O’Tangi Potiki Te Whaiti PARATA, 391068. He was a WOAG in 8 SQN at Emirau in 1945 and crewed with S/L Maurie PIRIE, MBE. My dad, an 8 SQN pilot, knew him as Tom PARATA and recalled that he crewed as a SGT WOAG with 75 SQN RAF. Does any know the details of his tour with this SQN. 8 SQN photos of S/L PIRIE and W/O PARATA copyright National Archives of NZ SL PIRIE WO PARATA<style></style>
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 21, 2018 17:28:20 GMT 12
Sgt Parata served with No. 75 (NZ) Squadron from the 18th of August to the 10th of November 1942. He crewed with Sgt Roy William Raharuhi, RNZAF (NZ412737). Their regular fellow Wellington crew members seem to have been: Sgt H.D. Reid RAF, Observer Sgt Terence Austin Murphy, RNZAF, (NZ413307) Air Bomber Sgt Robert James Carter DFM, RNZAF, (NZ41570) Air Gunner Robert Carter was from Cambridge so is detailed on my website here: www.cambridgeairforce.org.nz/Robert%20Carter.htm
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Post by davidd on Dec 24, 2018 8:49:35 GMT 12
Notice that the flying badges of both men are of the New Zealand metal type, which had no equivalent in the wartime RAF. They were introduced by the RNZAF in about August 1944. I think the RAAF may also have had metal aircrew badges in latter part of WW2 as well - can anybody confirm this? Incidentally, both photographs are of excellent quality - thanks for posting them. By all appearances, these photos were taken at Nausori, Fiji, where native bures were commonly to be found on the aerodrome for various purposes. No. 8 Squadron of course was stationed at Nausori before proceeding to the "forward area".
Just noticed that Parata in his photo is wearing his W/O badge in the approved tropical manner on a KD wrist band. Also of interest is that his metal aircrew badge is merely that of an A/G, although he was a qualified W/Opr A/G. This anomaly came about because the RNZAF only had Pilot, Nav, A/G and F/E badges in the metal (tropical) form, although this could be got around by having a cloth "Sparks" badge on the upper sleeve, but this option was not always taken up by those qualified to do so. The Canadians introduced a "WAG" aircrew badge in about 1941/42, which obviated use of the "Sparks" badge and these were often issued to RNZAF members on graduation in Canada, but the RAF opinion in the UK was that they were not official, and should be replaced by a cloth A/G badge on chest and a "Sparks" badge on upper sleeve. Many RNZAAF W/Opr A/Gs wore the Canadian WAG badge in NZ, seemingly without too much opposition. The little-known light blue cotton field service cap is worn by Parata, complete with its black plastic buttons. This was the replacement for the totally unsuitable woollen F/S cap previously worn, and descendants of this cap mat still exist in the service. Can anybody deny or confirm this? David D
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Post by thomarse on Dec 29, 2018 11:43:58 GMT 12
I'm a bit lost here - what did Sgt Parata do between November 1942 and 1945?
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Post by davidd on Dec 29, 2018 14:27:34 GMT 12
A few notes on career of Parata. Enlisted Ohakea 24/10/39 as ACH GD, remustered to AG u/t 14/4/41, emb for Canada 26/5, disemb 13/6, to 3 WS 16/6, to 4 B&GS 27/10, awarded A/G badge and promoted/remustered to Temp Sgt W/Opr A/G 24/11/41 (to F/Sgt 1/6/43, W/O 1/6/44), to 1 Y Depot 28/11, emb for UK 8/1/42, disemb 3 PRC 20/1, to 1 Sigs Sch 24/2, 9(O)AFU 4/4, 11 OTU 27/5, 75(NZ) Sqdn 18/8, tfd to 115 Sqdn 10/11/42 with the Raharuhi crew; emb on repat to NZ (no date), disemb NZ (Auckland) 10/2/43, to 2 GR Sqdn Nelson 28/2, moved to Ohakea with sqdn 26/4, moved overseas with sqdn (now 2 BR Sqdn, equipped with PV-1 Ventura) on 18/11/43, served at E/Santo, G/Canal, Munda, B/Ville, disemb NZ 24/5/44. Sqdn reformed Gisborne x/6/44, to Aircrew Pool (Hobsonville) 25/8, posted to 8 Sqdn @ Whenuapai 1/10/44, emb for Fiji (Nausori) 22/11/44, served at Funafuti 3 - 17/12/44, then to Emirau, disemb NZ 30/3/45. To NEP 1/5, tfd to Reserve C 13/6/45. So a fairly busy operational career after his training in NZ, Canada and the UK, no indulging in instructing or other non-operational stuff, all Browning guns, bombs and depth charges. Only relatively "quiet periods" were in Canada (intensive training) and with 2 Sqdn in NZ (also quite busy working up on Hudsons, then Venturas, as well as on operations patrolling the approached to our ports). Abbreviations used above: WS = Wireless School; B&GS = Bombing and Gunnery School; emb = embark, disemb = disembark; repat = repatriation; PRC =Personnel Reception Centre; NEP = Non-effective Pool; Sigs Sch = Signals School; (O)AFU = Observers Advanced Flying Unit; OTU = Operational Training Unit; 1 Y Depot was simply a holding unit in Canada for personnel awaiting embarkation for UK. David D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 29, 2018 19:59:40 GMT 12
There was also a pilot called Flying Officer Alistair Tanetoa Parata NZ403983 on No. 2 (GR) Squadron. I wonder if they might have been related? He was known to all as Tanē.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 13:52:21 GMT 12
Thanks’ gentlemen for your detailed responses to my question, the knowledge base of the individuals associated with this forum never ceases to amaze. As for W/O PARATA his service history is astonishing, having survived a tour with 75 Squadron in the European air war where aircrew casualties were close to 50%, this brave airman continued to serve in the Pacific air war were my father’s recollection of him was of an extremely good-natured and experienced senior NCO. <style></style>
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 31, 2018 14:55:48 GMT 12
Quite a reasonable number of the guys who served in the Pacific on bombers had already flown bomber ops in Europe. Same with fighter guys too. Not many people seem to realise there was a lot of airmen who did both theatres.
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Post by shorty on Dec 31, 2018 15:23:09 GMT 12
Quote-"The little-known light blue cotton field service cap is worn by Parata, complete with its black plastic buttons. This was the replacement for the totally unsuitable woollen F/S cap previously worn, and descendants of this cap mat still exist in the service. Can anybody deny or confirm this?"
That style of cap (allbeit with metal buttons) was issued to personel servingng in Singapore, when we had tailor made KD uniforms made there they also made us an even lighter F/S cap of a paler blue. I still have mine somewhere. The NZ issue ones were made from similar material to that used for the blue shirts worn with battledress.
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Post by fwx on Jan 1, 2019 12:09:14 GMT 12
Marama Parata at 75(NZ) Sqdn, late 1942: Photo from “The Weekly News”, 17 March 1943, but thought to be taken at Mildenhall the year before, “A Maori team at a British air station”, L-R: Sgt Roy Raharuhi (pilot), Sgt Marama Parata (wireless operator, Raharuhi crew), Sgt “Mana” Manawaiti (wireless operator, Trott crew), and Sgt “Ted” Gray (wireless operator, Broady crew). - Air Force Museum of New Zealand, via the Raharuhi family. Cheers, Chris
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Post by oj on Jan 4, 2019 20:53:06 GMT 12
I found this fascinating. Is anyone able to advise whether Tom Parata lived in Rotorua after demob? My parents were friends with Billie and Tom Parata in the 1950s and I had been to their home. There were two daughters, one called Denise, about the same age as me or slightly older. If I "age" the photo of Tom, I reckon it may well have been he.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 11:11:37 GMT 12
This image is if SL Pirie and crew at Nausori circa November 1944. From left to right S.L Armit, T. Parata, M.L. Pirie, "Chook" F.L. Fowler, and N.C. Long. S.L Pirie's crew<style></style>
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 11:23:07 GMT 12
My apologies the photo of S/F Pirie and crew is copyright - Archives New Zealand<style></style>
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 17, 2019 21:51:18 GMT 12
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Post by pmcardell on Nov 17, 2020 23:07:07 GMT 12
A couple of years late, but Tom Parata's daughter Denise appreciates your comments about her dad (My uncle Tahu). We've learnt a bit more about him from what you have shared. He gave me a picture of his crew and his slide rule back in the 80's and Roy Raharuhi's daughter (she is also a pilot), gave me his flight logs from the european tour but I didn't know about his other service. I have put a link to this page on our family facebook page so his wider whanau can know about his history Te Whaiti family facebook page
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Post by pmcardell on Nov 17, 2020 23:15:57 GMT 12
With regard to Alistair Parata, he is from the Dunedin Parata whanau, and the uncle of Hekia Parata (the former MP and wife of Wira Gardiner), whereas Tom Parata's whanau is from Waikanae
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Post by McFly on Nov 18, 2020 11:22:13 GMT 12
A couple of additional photos of MT Parata from the Air Force Museum collection. "Enlargement from composite group, Flight 19D, No. 3 Wireless School, Winnipeg, Canada.Portrait of Leading Aircraftman MT Parata, RNZAF."(2004-301.7k Parata MT) "Large group of Signals Section personnel. Emirau. L-R: Back; Buckingham, Godfrey, Parata, Grant, Murray, Phelan, Boyes, Pugh, Hicks, Arthur, McNicol, Russel, Smith. Middle; Fox, Hearn, Hunt, Brown, Ferguson, Dudley, Stewart, Gibson, Woolhouse, ?. Front; McLean, Bell, Jenkins, ?, ?, Dix, Mercer, Day, Adams. Circa early 1945" (PR4909)
And another of AT Parata. "Group. Pilots course 7a, No. 1 Service Flying Training School, RNZAF Station Wigram. L-R: Back; AK Saunders, AJ McCracken, JTE Matheson, PJD Cooney, HA Chandler, WD Stuart, CJ Stirling, LB Ware, JAG Barthgate. Middle; LM Checketts, FWH Burney, RH Higgins, AD Bayly, KF Moore, KS Blair, WR Kemp, RE Stevenson, CB Wareham, JE Smith. Front; TC Goodlet, BD Christopher, AT Parata, BG Wallace, JD Broadley, SS Obery, BT Shannon." (WgF1133)
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Post by denise on Nov 19, 2020 8:50:50 GMT 12
I found this fascinating. Is anyone able to advise whether Tom Parata lived in Rotorua after demob? My parents were friends with Billie and Tom Parata in the 1950s and I had been to their home. There were two daughters, one called Denise, about the same age as me or slightly older. If I "age" the photo of Tom, I reckon it may well have been he.
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Post by denise on Nov 19, 2020 10:11:17 GMT 12
In regards to Leading Aircraftman I am the youngest daughter of Tom Parata.Only by chance I found Wings of NZ and read your comments wth much appreciation that you shared.My dad resided in clive until 1985 due to his passing.
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Post by denise on Nov 19, 2020 10:22:04 GMT 12
In reply to Leading Aircraftman I am the youngest daughter of Tom Parata.Much appreciation for your shared comments.Dad resided in clive until 1985 due to his passing.
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