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Post by pjw4118 on Mar 7, 2019 7:17:51 GMT 12
HMS Albion was in Auckland during 1959 , as their helicopters did a flypast over Auckland and the huge clattering caused our classes to stop . The ship was open to the public ,and I spent an afternoon aboard ( no camera in those days) . I think that Whenuapai hosted some of the aircraft.
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Post by horicle on Mar 7, 2019 11:26:17 GMT 12
The Memory is creeping back. The Levels Airport event was late 50's because our 'new' Canberra's were there. I scored a discarded starter cartridge when the pilot was fitting a new one for the next start. Hope I have got it all at the same event which was the Royal New Zealand Aero Club Pageant of 31st Jan 1959 thanks to this Forums NZ Airshows History. It is all joined together.
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Post by avenger on Mar 7, 2019 14:27:20 GMT 12
HMS Albion was in Auckland during 1959 , as their helicopters did a flypast over Auckland and the huge clattering caused our classes to stop . The ship was open to the public ,and I spent an afternoon aboard ( no camera in those days) . I think that Whenuapai hosted some of the aircraft. 1959 fits with the period of the original post photographs, (the summer of '58 - '59.)the uniform depicted the then RNZAF summer uniform. |
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Post by camtech on Mar 7, 2019 14:44:17 GMT 12
The Canberras at Timaru were actually RAF aircraft on hire to the RNZAF - WF915 and WJ605.
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Post by shorty on Mar 7, 2019 15:22:26 GMT 12
I also went on board the Albion at Auckland at the age of 13, I think I may have taken some box Brownie shots of the Sea Venoms and Sea Hawks.Do I still have the negs? I don't know
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Post by avenger on Mar 7, 2019 15:31:55 GMT 12
The Canberras at Timaru were actually RAF aircraft on hire to the RNZAF - WF915 and WJ605.Note the second Canberra is ???15.The silver aircraft unkown to me, moderately sure this at Ohakea. I do have a close up of the nose of one of the multi coloured Canberras but no I/D visible, decided not to post on this thread. 
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Post by nzav8a on Mar 13, 2019 11:11:21 GMT 12
WT962 at Wigram, undated slide by Ron Killick  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 13, 2019 11:31:16 GMT 12
That's a superb photo!
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Post by baz62 on Mar 13, 2019 14:49:27 GMT 12
Yes a very clear photo! Single aircraft or were there a few of them I wonder. Must have made a Harvard look small!
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Post by oj on Mar 13, 2019 21:04:29 GMT 12
When you zoom in on the entrance door you see rather rumpled skin above the door and also suggests some very closely spaced frame stations. Do you think these skins are perhaps stressed and stretched through the many cycles of dive bombing and carrying heavy loads?
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Post by angelsonefive on Mar 14, 2019 20:36:53 GMT 12
When you zoom in on the entrance door you see rather rumpled skin above the door and also suggests some very closely spaced frame stations. Do you think these skins are perhaps stressed and stretched through the many cycles of dive bombing and carrying heavy loads? This is an Airborne Early Warning (AEW) aircraft and not a dive bomber. I think the whole idea of dive bombing had been rejected by the time the Skyraider came into service. The stress marks were probably just the result of repeated deck landings. |
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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 15, 2019 16:29:38 GMT 12
The term "dive-bomber" is relative. Read any treatise on Skyraiders in Korea or Vietnam and you will quickly find that they were dive bombing but not like a Stuka or Vultee Vengeance, Curtiss Helldiver etc and still suffered the pull-out stresses. Wonderful, wonderful aircraft To me like a Bf109, you can tell immediately what it was designed for. Baz62, it is BIG !!! take a look at the vertical fin. As a comparison imagine a T.28 with a nose gear..... the top of the Skyraider tail with the tailwheel on the ground is only about 3 inches below the top of the Trojan fin and the eyeline of the pilot of the Skyraider sits about three feet above the eyeline of the T.28 pilot. I did a comparison drawing once showing just how big the Skyraider is relative to the T.28.  Beautiful aeroplane ! Have a read of "My Secret War". Met the author in the USA and we shared quite a few Skyraider stories - lots not permissible in the book - he loved it. |
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Mar 15, 2019 18:46:41 GMT 12
Agreed Ando. Probably my favourite piston prop warbird - especially the A-1E
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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 16, 2019 9:40:18 GMT 12
For me the A1-H
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Post by ZacYates on Mar 16, 2019 16:02:44 GMT 12
I've been an AD-5/A-1E fan for a long time: a warbird you can bring the family to the show in!
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Post by emron on Mar 17, 2019 1:17:12 GMT 12
I never knew Skyraiders had visited NZ, and RN ones at that! The first Skyraiders to visit here were probably those on the USS Tarawa. This ship made a port visit to Wellington in 1954 and I was able to stand in the cockpit of one of them for a few minutes when the ship was open to the public. Being 12 at the time I would not have been able to see out if I had sat down. The plane was one of the single-seat " Attack " versions of the Skyraider. A couple of days later, after the Tarawa had sailed, four of her Grumman Cougars came back over the city, one of them making a supersonic dive and breaking a few windows. Footage of USS Tarawa with destroyer USS O'Bannon here on Archives NZ "New Zealand National Film Unit presents Admiral Halsey Arrives in NZ (1954)." |
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Post by madmax on Mar 17, 2019 2:45:08 GMT 12
The photograph I have of 13 Skyraiders over Wellington were probably from the USS Tarawa's 1954 visit
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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 17, 2019 8:35:40 GMT 12
Thanks for weaving you magic Dave and inserting that drawing. It does give you a good idea about the comparison…..and if I did it against the Harvard it would probably just sit under the fuselage.
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Mar 17, 2019 17:29:53 GMT 12
Go on then!
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Post by Mustang51 on Mar 17, 2019 17:45:04 GMT 12
johnnyfalcon…..any idea just how long it takes to produce a drawing like that.....I have a Harvard base and shall see what I can do but it won't be tomorrow morning. I did these all the time for those who were seeking paint schemes for their aircraft but that was a long time ago when I had a bit of talent....time and Jack Daniels have taken their toll
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