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Post by colford on Apr 18, 2019 16:25:44 GMT 12
Well this one came as a BIG surprise. Just announced on FB by the RAAF, linked to the Temora Aviation Museum page. QUOTE Defence has entered into an agreement with the Temora Aviation Museum to transfer ownership of 11 historically significant aircraft to the Royal Australian Air Force. As we approach our Centenary in 2021, this agreement will ensure that these historic aircraft can continue to be preserved, remembered and displayed. The aircraft - a Canberra, Vampire, Meteor, two Spitfires, Hudson, Wirraway, Boomerang, Cessna A-37B Dragonfly, DH-82A Tiger Moth and a Ryan STMS2 - were flown and supported during several conflicts in defence of our country and our national interests. They'll continue to be located and maintained by the expert staff at the Temora Aviation Museum. You can find out more about our Centenary at www.airforce.gov.au/100UNQUOTE No it'snot April 1st, and it has come via the RAAF official FB page and links to the Centenary of the RAAF page on the Australian Defence Website. Let the speculation, discussion and similar commence! |
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Post by keroburner on Apr 18, 2019 16:30:31 GMT 12
Wow!!
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Apr 18, 2019 17:04:35 GMT 12
OMG! Compare that with what OUR Air Force and Government is doing...
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Post by l29 on Apr 18, 2019 19:09:21 GMT 12
I can't think of why this is a good idea?
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Post by lesterpk on Apr 18, 2019 20:59:29 GMT 12
Probably brings them under military airworthiness authority rather than CAsA?
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Post by vultee43 on Apr 19, 2019 0:24:15 GMT 12
Holy s#@t! The Navy sends their aircraft to HARS (best decision for them) and now the RAAF get their hands on this collection. Let's hope and pray this won't be the end of them operationally. I can see the dust settling on them now.
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Post by Mustang51 on Apr 19, 2019 13:03:51 GMT 12
Vultee43.....completely wrong. I can completely assure you that the RAAF/Temora deal will maintain all the aircraft in airworthy condition, they shall continue to be displayed at the regular Showcase and Warbirds Downunder days and the pilots who fly them now shall continue to fly them. They shall be maintained by TAM staff under Chief Engineer Andy Bishop and the deal is for an initial period of five years
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Post by mumbles on Apr 19, 2019 14:25:49 GMT 12
OMG! Compare that with what OUR Air Force and Government is doing... What should they be doing? |
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Apr 19, 2019 16:01:30 GMT 12
I'm not saying they should be doing anything. But, by way of comparison, consider the RNZAF Historic Flight aircraft. Evidently NZ1015 is unlikely to return to the air since its unfortunate forced-landing, leaving a solitary DH-82 NZ662 - I presume still airworthy and flown. The other airframes are static.
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Post by l29 on Apr 19, 2019 17:58:03 GMT 12
NZ1015 will happily fly again in the not to distant future.
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Post by johnnyfalcon on Apr 19, 2019 18:32:00 GMT 12
I stand corrected. I was misinformed. That's great news! It doesn't change the stark contrast in historic airframe preservation policy though. I can't ever imagine NZ initiating such an arrangement as described above, shoestring funding as it is...
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Post by vultee43 on Apr 20, 2019 0:04:09 GMT 12
Vultee43.....completely wrong. I can completely assure you that the RAAF/Temora deal will maintain all the aircraft in airworthy condition, they shall continue to be displayed at the regular Showcase and Warbirds Downunder days and the pilots who fly them now shall continue to fly them. They shall be maintained by TAM staff under Chief Engineer Andy Bishop and the deal is for an initial period of five years That's a relief. Unfortunately as most of us suspect, when bureaucrats and Government become involved with things like this, rationalization and cost cutting are omnipresent. I'm not having a go at Temora and certainly not the RAAF but history shows that assets can become stored or moved out of the public areana in these circumstances. I respect and hold the RAAF in the highest regard (excluding the F35 purchase) and sincerely believe they do a lot with a little when it comes to history preservation. Hence why I applaud the HARS deal and the effort to bring some of these aircraft out of hiding. |
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Post by Mustang51 on Apr 20, 2019 13:46:36 GMT 12
If for some reason the RAAF decide that they do not want a machine/machines, they come back to TAM
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Post by suthg on Apr 20, 2019 18:44:02 GMT 12
I am also presuming that the RAAF has struck a financial deal as well, supporting the aircraft maintenance and long term storage costs and overheads, so money has transferred - well a budget has been promised to TAM I assume - which would be a good thing - and a commitment shown for at least the first 5 years.
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Post by planecrazy on Apr 20, 2019 20:29:27 GMT 12
I'm now confused so the Royal Australian Navy historic flight has gone to a private organisation,
and a private organisation's collection has gone to the Royal Australian Air Force? Don't get me
wrong, it's a good thing, both situations assure the future of both collections.
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Post by Mustang51 on Apr 21, 2019 13:11:40 GMT 12
Think you'll find the Navy/HARS decision was a completely different decision making process
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Post by aeromedia on Jun 18, 2019 5:40:15 GMT 12
As they say, the only constant in life is change. Obviously this is an arrangement that is mutually beneficial to the parties involved. And Ando’s telling statement covers any concerns I believe. I always remind myself how fortunate the heritage military aviation world “downunder” is to have a champion for its preservation in David Lowy. His personal efforts as a reflection of the gratitude he feels for his family’s life of freedom in Australia is a narrative that fits beautifully alongside the collection and the museum overall. I will always be grateful for the many good times spent enjoying and appreciating the TAM, and indeed I trust, many more to come.
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Post by planecrazy on Jun 18, 2019 10:55:10 GMT 12
As they say, the only constant in life is change. Obviously this is an arrangement that is mutually beneficial to the parties involved. And Ando’s telling statement covers any concerns I believe. I always remind myself how fortunate the heritage military aviation world “downunder” is to have a champion for its preservation in David Lowy. His personal efforts as a reflection of the gratitude he feels for his family’s life of freedom in Australia is a narrative that fits beautifully alongside the collection and the museum overall. I will always be grateful for the many good times spent enjoying and appreciating the TAM, and indeed I trust, many more to come. Hear, hear the guy is a legend, I was lucky to attend the recent June 8th showcase at Temora. David Lowy was interviewed and talked about his love of all things aviation. This commenced with his mum giving him one of those simple balsa gliders with the slide in wing and a nail for nose weight. He took the thing to top of a hill and became obsessed when it flew perfectly to the bottom of that hill. He also talked about wanting to join the Air Force however other things got in the way. As part of the RAAF/TAM arrangement the TAM pilots had to become honorary Flight Lieutenants and he joked that he finally made it! Interesting asked what was his favourite type, Pitts Special! Thanks for what you have done and continue to do for historic aviation, Mr Lowy you are a star, a rock star!  |
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Post by horicle on Jun 18, 2019 11:26:37 GMT 12
Waiting to hear what the financial situation is.
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Post by Mustang51 on Jun 20, 2019 10:03:15 GMT 12
Don't hold your breath on that one.....
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