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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 3, 2019 20:46:48 GMT 12
Ah right, good stuff. Thanks.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jul 3, 2019 22:48:56 GMT 12
The army , however seem to have no idea where they will need to fight ,is it against Rommel or isis in the desert , Hitler or the Russians in Europe or Bouganvillians and Chinese in the Pacific. So do we buy battle tanks , Toyotas , or surf boards ? Someone, years ago, inquired why the British had a tradition of entering into war, losing heavily for the first few years, and then getting their act together and winning. The answer, apparently, was similar to the above. No-one knew what gear would be required for the next war, so it was better just to concentrate on the blanco, brasso and bullshit, wait for the next war to begin, inspect the conflict and decide what was needed, and go from there. Seems to have mostly worked! |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 4, 2019 0:42:24 GMT 12
Meanwhile the Royal Air Force has the British Army covered while they sort themselves out.
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Post by 30sqnatc on Jul 4, 2019 17:31:14 GMT 12
During the Falklands Campaign for instance .... really. Perhaps after they had visited various museums to acquire refuelling probes to fit to C-130.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 4, 2019 19:22:38 GMT 12
Well if the Army puts themselves in damn silly places....
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Post by pepe on Jul 4, 2019 19:27:29 GMT 12
Meanwhile the Royal Air Force has the British Army covered while they sort themselves out. Except I wouldn't exactly say that the RAF had them "covered" during the early part of the war. The operations in France, Greece, Crete, Malaya, and Burma were more than a little lacking in air support for various reasons. |
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Post by angelsonefive on Jul 4, 2019 19:40:01 GMT 12
Well if the Army puts themselves in damn silly places.... It's not the Army ( or the other Services for that matter) that decides where they go, the politicians do that for them. |
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Post by nighthawknz on Jul 20, 2019 23:08:28 GMT 12
The July edition of "Army News" has a good breakdown of the new kit for our soldiers with the modernisation programme. army.mil.nz/downloads/pdf/army-news/armynews504.pdfIt also has a small piece on the first phase of the Protected Mobility Capability project and the Polaris MRZR is confirmed. |
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Post by macnz on Oct 14, 2019 1:15:54 GMT 12
Back in July Janes reported: " Ron Mark also indicated that the Bushmaster 4×4 protected mobility platform, produced by Thales Australia, is likely to fulfil the requirement for protected vehicle mediums. For this project [the New Zealand Ministry of Defence] is working with the Australian Defence Force and related suppliers to examine whether further co-operation on this class of vehicle is the best way forward for New Zealand," said Mark. "I will bring a firm proposal to [the] cabinet next year. He added that the protected vehicle mediums project is intended to provide the New Zealand Army with similar levels of capability and protection to the Bushmasters operated by the New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) Special Forces, of which there are believed to be five. Vehicles procured through the project will undertake roles including troop transport, command and communications, and casualty evacuation, said Mark. " www.janes.com/article/89653/new-zealand-approves-military-vehicle-projects...last I heard, ADF had a surplus stockpile of used Bushmasters while the ADF awaited the delivery of 1100 Thales Hawkei replacements that were expected to go into full production in 2020. There was also a report in the Australian in September 2019 that there was a 12 month blow-out to the 2 year delivery timetable. Presumably, NZDF is keen to pick up some low mileage bushmasters (that fits our budget), so has this affected when NZ could procure the bushmasters? and has there been any news on when the proposal was expected to go to Cabinet? One other question: Can the C130-Js airlift the bushmaster? I've only heard of the C-17s airlifting bushmasters for the ADF. If the C130-Js are chosen & cant carry the bushmaster, does this mean NZDF see future bushmasters only being sealifted to theatre of operation? |
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Post by macnz on Oct 14, 2019 3:14:44 GMT 12
In answer to last question. Found on paper it looks like one can just squeeze into C-130J
Bushmaster Dimensions:
Mass 15,400 kg (33,951 lb)
Length 7.18m
Width 2.48m
Height 2.65m
C-130J Interior Dimensions:
Cabin Length (excluding ramp) 12.19 m
Cabin Length (including ramp) 15.44 m
Max. Width 3.12 m
Max. Height 2.74 m
Total useable volume 4,551 cubic ft /128.9 m3
Max. Payload, 2.5 g 41,790 lbs / 18,955 kg
c-130J Dimensions:
Operating Empty Weight 75,562 lbs / 34,274 kg
Max. Fuel Weight (internal) 45,900 lbs / 20,519 kg
Max. Overload Takeoff Weight 175,000 lbs / 79,380 kg
Max. Normal Landing Weight 130,000 lbs / 58,965 kg
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