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Post by planecrazy on Nov 7, 2019 21:46:48 GMT 12
Can anyone tell the story on the badge on this ex RNZAF CT4 that came through my local, presuming it's air force related?  On the other side this badge.   |
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Post by lesterpk on Nov 8, 2019 0:29:04 GMT 12
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Post by planecrazy on Nov 8, 2019 6:05:17 GMT 12
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Post by camtech on Nov 9, 2019 8:17:45 GMT 12
Any signifigance to the red drops beside the owl? Blood shed, students chopped, no of red owls?
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Post by davidd on Nov 9, 2019 9:56:51 GMT 12
Believe it or not, that bird is supposed to be a pelican (which of course had webbed feet, and a much more prominent bill than this artwork!) One can only conclude that the artist in this case must have been ignorant of this simple fact. The "red drops" represent blood, and are to signify the degree to which the mother bird is prepared endure hardship (by self-mutilation, pecking of her own breast) to feed her semi-helpless young. However there is absolutely no proof that mother pelicans indulged in any such thing, but nevertheless this historical belief does give you a warm feeling for such motherly love! This symbolism was adopted by the RAF's own Central Flying School very many years ago, and it is possible that it was also copied by other "CFS's" in other Commonwealth air forces.
David D
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Post by planecrazy on Nov 10, 2019 9:08:41 GMT 12
Slighty off topic, I was wondering if anyone had some detail on the RAF deal.
From my ageing memory I remember reading, I think in New Zealand Wings,
there was a proposal where CT4s where going to be purchased as trainers
for the RAF, something happened and they purchase the Bulldog instead?
Thank you......
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Post by oj on Nov 10, 2019 15:00:13 GMT 12
My first thoughts were the bird is a Kahu and the drops of blood represents Helen Clark's axing of the strike wing!
Which of course we are still all in mourning of.
Anyway, why a pelican; I don't think we have them in NZ?
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Post by oj on Nov 10, 2019 15:01:56 GMT 12
And what are all those red flags for on the bank in the distance?
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Post by planecrazy on Nov 10, 2019 20:26:18 GMT 12
And what are all those red flags for on the bank in the distance? The flags to discourage a bird, the sooty turn, from nesting on the sand dune at the south end of the island's airstrip, very dangerous for aeroplanes, especially when the chicks are learning to fly in the Autumn.  |
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Post by davidd on Nov 10, 2019 21:26:31 GMT 12
oj,
You will have to ask why the RNZAF decided to slavishly copy an RAF badge faithfully, with no regard for local fauna, but I think this question has already been answered by me in last post. Just put it down to a wish to honour the old mother country, and revel in the touching story of an extreme desire to sacrifice the young blood of your country for the common cause.
David D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 10, 2019 21:28:42 GMT 12
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