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Post by spitfire14 on Feb 13, 2020 14:14:51 GMT 12
Hello all,
I'm going to sound like a complete idiot here so apologies in advance!
I am getting back into some flying after 20 years, the trouble is, nowadays things seem to have moved on from the hard copy AIP, VNC Charts etc ... people are throwing such names as Ipads and Oz Runways at me!
Can anyone please give me some advice - paper or ipad?
Also, I've been told that Oz Runways won't work on Android which is what my phone is. Is there a program that does?
I'm looking at this ipad original 1st Gen (wi-fi, 3G, GPS, 64GB) ... will this do?
I've been told that the Oz Runways with AIP Vol 4 and VFR VNC Charts is $120/year, is this correct?
How does it work in terms of paying for the internet to run it while flying?
Sorry for all the questions, I'm a complete novice at all this tech stuff bit would be grateful for any advice.
Kind regards,
Nick.
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Post by daqqy152 on Feb 13, 2020 20:13:04 GMT 12
Nick
Oz Runways will work on an Android device and can be down loaded through the Play Store with a one month free trial. That will let you know if there are going to be any issues with your Android device.
I would be very cautious about buying a first gen Ipad, that's getting very old and probably unsupported now.
You don't have to use internet while flying.
And the last thing, technically you do sill need to have the paper copies with you.
Enjoy your flying
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Post by spitfire14 on Feb 14, 2020 8:56:06 GMT 12
Thank you!
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Post by flyinkiwi on Feb 14, 2020 11:01:07 GMT 12
Don't buy a second hand tablet. People discard them for many reasons and not all of them bode well for it's long term life.
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Post by woody99 on Feb 14, 2020 12:00:46 GMT 12
I use Av-Plan EFB (https://www.avplan-efb.com/) on my iPad. They have just released an Android version also. There are a number of videos on the website that will give you a full understanding of the app and how it works. The annual subscription is around $130 (tip - DON'T subscribe via the app. Subscribe via the website as it's cheaper then just enter your username and password into the app).
The subscription allows for up to two devices so I have the software on both iPad and iPhone.
Depending on the hardware you are using, you may or may not have on-board GPS for moving map. My iPad is only WIFI therefore no GPS. I have a Garmin Glo bluetooth GPS (around $140) that sits on the dash and sends GPS information to the iPad. Works great.
There's a learning curve for any of this stuff - if you choose Av-Plan have a look at the videos on the website and you'll get a good handle on how it is designed and tips/tricks for use.
All that said, paper VNCs and AIP (or maybe 20 years ago NZMS242A and “The VFG” ) work just as well. I sometimes find as I become a tad older (with commensurate eyesight degradation) that the paper chart is better when the iPad gets the sun on the screen.
Cheers
Darryn
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Post by woody99 on Feb 14, 2020 12:24:15 GMT 12
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Post by spitfire14 on Feb 14, 2020 17:37:53 GMT 12
Thanks for all the advice everyone, much appreciated!
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