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Post by l29 on Aug 19, 2020 20:29:30 GMT 12
Now disassembled and stored with his other Devon's near dunsandel.
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Post by planecrazy on Aug 23, 2020 11:26:29 GMT 12
Been going through some old pic's found this one, NZ 1808 on Lord Howe Island from memory late 90's early 2000's, can't remember if she just visited, was sold in OZ, didn't meet the pilot? Be interested if anyone may know where she is these days?  |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 23, 2020 12:09:24 GMT 12
I think NZ1808 was the Warbirds syndicate that Glyn Powell was in, and he used to fly it, right?
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Post by Damon on Aug 23, 2020 18:52:17 GMT 12
Glyn Powell may have been in in the syndicate at some point. He also had 07 / ZK-RNG . 08 is currently at Tauranga not getting much air time , with the Classic Flyers Museum .
Owner B Kaey at the time took it to Melbourne OZ at some point I believe .Also a sojourn to New Caledonia in the 1990's. Would be nice to see it flying around some more..
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Post by Peter Lewis on Aug 23, 2020 22:48:29 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 24, 2020 18:37:04 GMT 12
Wow I have never seen a Devon and a Hudson in the same place before, outside of Wigram and MOTAT. That must have been a really short window of opportunity, sometime between the 20th of April 1948 when NZ1801 was brought on charge with the RNZAF and the last Hudsons going into storage at Nelson in August 1948? Or did a few Hudsons linger in a little?
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Post by Peter Lewis on Aug 26, 2020 23:05:10 GMT 12
A couple more of NZ1801. Date and place unknown, but the first one has the flag flying so looks to be waiting for a VIP  and this second one is possibly at an event  |
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Post by tbf25o4 on Aug 27, 2020 9:21:04 GMT 12
NZ1801 with the flag "Get those hands out of your pockets you scruffy airmen!"
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Post by shorty on Aug 27, 2020 9:37:17 GMT 12
NZ1801 with the flag "Get those hands out of your pockets you scruffy airmen!" Ane they both look to be Officers and one even has a chestful of medal ribbons! Standards are definitely slipping! Photo taken sometime after mid 1957 but before 1963 |
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Post by planewriting on Aug 27, 2020 9:37:18 GMT 12
Glyn Powell may have been in in the syndicate at some point. He also had 07 / ZK-RNG . 08 is currently at Tauranga not getting much air time , with the Classic Flyers Museum . Owner B Kaey at the time took it to Melbourne OZ at some point I believe .Also a sojourn to New Caledonia in the 1990's. Would be nice to see it flying around some more.. NZ1808 ZK-KTT is owned by NZ Historic Aircraft Trust and is in their hangar. It is in excellent condition and yes it would be nice to seeing it flying. |
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Post by davidd on Aug 27, 2020 10:12:27 GMT 12
Dove/Devon NZ1801 with the "stencil" fern leaf would have been photographed sometime before about 1960, by which time the "decal" fern leafs should have been incorporated (although I doubt that this would have been noted in the aircraft's log books, but I have been known to get things wrong from time to time). The second photograph of '01 with the white cabin top appears to be at Wigram judging by the very distinctive hills in background - also note what appears to be the tail of a Canberra on extreme left, and is that the tip of the tailfin of a US Navy Neptune protruding above the fuselage of the Devon? Seems that there was definitely some "event" in progress here, as already postulated. I am thinking some time in 1959 maybe, although we also had some 75 Sqdn Canberras visiting from Singapore in 1957 or 58.
David D
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Post by baronbeeza on Aug 27, 2020 19:13:25 GMT 12
......... The second photograph of '01 with the white cabin top appears to be at Wigram judging by the very distinctive hills in background - also note what appears to be the tail of a Canberra on extreme left, and is that the tip of the tailfin of a US Navy Neptune protruding above the fuselage of the Devon? Seems that there was definitely some "event" in progress here, as already postulated. ............ I am more familiar with the Southern end of Wigram, and am unsure of those shadows. Still trying to nut out where on the airfield it could be. Up by the main gate with the Devon facing No 1 Officers Mess possibly. |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Aug 27, 2020 23:21:16 GMT 12
NZ1802 At the New Plymouth airport opening, 4Mar1967  At Whenuapai, 1Jul1967  January 1973  Tauranga 5Feb1975  Unknown date/place  Apparently, Dave Culham was really keen to fly around in a UFO, so chose the whole range of Devon/Dove registrations to fit around that - UCO UDO UEO and UFO. Whangarei 1977  At a Later Date - Ardmore 28Jan1978  |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Aug 28, 2020 22:05:21 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 19, 2024 22:37:27 GMT 12
Here is a report from The Press from the 23rd of January 1956 about the loss of Devon NZ1824. It has a lot more detail than nzdf.serials does. DEVON PLANE WRECKEDPILOT OVERSHOOTS RUNWAY OCCUPANTS ESCAPE SERIOUS INJURY (New Zealand Press Association) INVERCARGILL, January 22. An Air Force Devon aircraft from Wigram overshot the runway at the Invercargill airport on Saturday morning, and was wrecked in a 30-foot ditch on the eastern boundary of the field. None of the six occupants was seriously injured, but the aircraft was very extensively damaged. “We may be able to cut it up for parts, but I do not think she will ever fly again,” an R.N.Z.A.F. officer said. The aircraft is valued at £18,000. It was piloted by Sergeant L. Giddens. It carried four other airmen— Corporal Lampson, and Leading Aircraftmen Howie, Manly, and Bird — and two W.A.A.F.’s —Leading Aircraftwomen Hoa and Kay. Most of the occupants suffered minor cuts and bruises. Miss Kay was admitted to the Southland Hospital for observation. The Devon was scheduled to participate in the Southland centennial air pageant. A guard was placed on the Devon immediately after the accident, and spectators were not allowed near it. Later, the wreckage was covered with tarpaulins. The officer commanding the Taieri Air Force Wing Commander P. P. O’Brien, was notified, and arrived in another Devon about 1 p.m. Three men were sent from Taieri to guard the aircraft last night. An official inquiry into the accident was held today. The Court of Inquiry consisted of Squadron Leader B. Rachinger, R.A.A.F., Flight Lieutenant J. D. Waugh, and Flight Lieutenant D. J. McGovan, from Wigram. ------------- Here are some photos of the crash from the Air Force Museum of New Zealand page. They are WgG5652-56, WgG5653-56 and WgG5654-56.    |
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Post by tbf2504 on Feb 20, 2024 15:08:10 GMT 12
As usual the papers didn't get it right. The Corporal was Don Lamason (Not Lampson). He was later commissioned as and Engineering Officer and in the mid 1970s was CO Tech Wing at Wigram. Over one of our staff cups of tea, he told me about that crash. The pilot landed late on a wet grass field and basically slide off the runway into the ditch.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 18, 2024 21:40:54 GMT 12
The demise of NZ1830.... nzdf.serials states: The Press on 9 January 1963 reported: Devon Aircraft Crashes And Burns At WigramA Devon aircraft of the Royal New Zealand Air Force crashed and burst into flames while making an approach to Wigram airfield at 3 pan. yesterday. The pilot, Flight Lieutenant Alan Dwyer, aged 31, of Auckland, escaped injury. A R.N.Z.A.F. spokesman said the pilot had feathered one engine for a practice landing when the other engine failed. The aircraft crashed on the outer perimeter of the airfield. Within minutes at the crash the Air Department was notified. A court of inquiry will sit at Wigram today. According to an eye-witness the plane circled before coming in to land. On its descent the Devon flew so low that it “ploughed through a couple of fences.” As it struck the second fence the Devon was seen to "go through a gate, and it appeared that the starboard engine caught fire.” As the aircraft landed in a rough paddock it slewed around and began to burn. The pilot was seen to jump out of the aircraft almost as soon as it touched the ground. As the plane plunged into the paddock three fire engines and an ambulance from Wigram station were seen racing across the airfield. The fire was brought under control within minutes —“perhaps less than 10,” said an eye-witness. Last evening a guard was placed on the Devon. This will be mounted until the court of inquiry assembles. Flight Lieutenant Dwyer's wife is at present on holiday in the Auckland area. On getting back to the station Flight Lieutenant Dwyer telephoned his wife to say he was uninjured. --------------  WgG12513-63 Two men preparing to salvage the fuselage of Devon NZ1830 after it crashed while landing at RNZAF Station Wigram.  WgG12512-63 Close up of the nose of Devon NZ1830 after it crashed while landing at RNZAF Station Wigram.  WgG12506-63 Port engine of Devon NZ1830 after it crashed while landing at RNZAF Station Wigram.  WgG12505-63 Starboard engine and burnt fuselage of Devon NZ1830 after it crashed while landing at RNZAF Station Wigram |
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Post by davidd on Apr 20, 2024 12:29:06 GMT 12
Caption (and question) for first of the 4 photographs - what are the other two men doing there? As kids, me and my brothers (or somebody else perhaps?) used to play around in this wreck in about 1964/65 - never got caught by the guards! There were also other wrecks in same location, mostly cars I think, also two major sections of the central fuselage of Canberra NZ6101. The remains of a Piper Apache (Canterbury Aero Club) also lay in a sort of a scrap yard now too far away (it came to grief at Harewood of course, a few years earlier, after a botched night landing I believe).
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 20, 2024 12:41:48 GMT 12
I wonder if those two other men are the crane operators?
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Post by camtech on Apr 21, 2024 15:53:54 GMT 12
I wonder if those two other men are the crane operators? The one to the right, partly obscured, appears to be in issue type overalls, so possibly the crane operator. The other almost looks like the local farmer, with no apparent uniform clothing. |
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