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Post by paul1953 on Jun 5, 2021 9:16:39 GMT 12
Hi. Can anyone here help out with images ( incolour if poss) of Harvards wearing the Territorial unit markings please. I have a model project in waiting. Thanks!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 5, 2021 11:41:40 GMT 12
All the ones I have of TAF Harvards they do not have the checker unit markings. I think they must have come along very late in the piece.
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Post by NZ1009 on Jun 7, 2021 18:47:19 GMT 12
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Post by NZ1009 on Jun 7, 2021 19:01:58 GMT 12
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Post by baz62 on Jun 8, 2021 14:07:42 GMT 12
That last one possibly beside 6 hangar at Wigram? Look Nick its 68!  |
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Post by davidd on Jun 9, 2021 13:18:34 GMT 12
Please note that although 1068 was based at Wigram from July 1950, it was at Taieri by about 1956/57, until transferred back to Wigram for Long Term Storage in August 1957. So I am presuming it was photographed in the markings of No. 4 (Otago) Squadron. As is well known, No. 3 Squadron (Wigram) had no permanent Harvards, as it was far simpler to draw a serviceable aircraft from the rather large Wigram fleet when required for flying, on a fairly casual basis.
David D
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Post by paul1953 on Jun 11, 2021 20:25:08 GMT 12
Thanks guys. I take it that NZ1074 is the Auckland Squadron judging by the badge on the fin. ANd is that a unit crest just below and slightly ahead of the windscreen? '1068' looks to have the single gun wing armament and a small blister below it. Is/ was this standard? '1092(82?) in the colour image looks to have the gun too but no blister? Finally the aerial fit looks to be standard is that right?
Any more pics info out there?
Many thanks and I look forward to coming back to see more replies. All the best.
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Post by davidd on Jun 15, 2021 19:04:36 GMT 12
paul1953, don't think there is any doubt that there is a badge on the fwd fuselage of 1074, pretty fuzzy, but almost certain to be badge of that squadron. Also rather odd that 1068 lacks a black top on engine cowling, but I guess this just signified a cowling change for some reason, and the S&S guys have not got around to getting out their favourite spray gun.
Also have a note that 1092 was with 1 TAF Squadron for a while in 1957, before being delivered to Wigram in August 1957 for Long term Storage (on closing down of the TAF), so perhaps the colour photo does indeed show this aircraft and not 1082. With the withdrawal of all the TAF P-51s in about 1956 or thereabouts, the TAF squadrons were issued a few more Harvards to keep up morale!
David D
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Post by NZ1009 on Jun 16, 2021 16:39:58 GMT 12
Some more - first 3 are obviously not while in attached to the TAF - I think the previous colour photo is 1082  1090_z by , on Flickr  1052_w by , on Flickr  1052_r by , on Flickr  1091_p by , on Flickr  1091_l by , on Flickr  1089_c by , on Flickr  1087_z by , on Flickr  1087_p by , on Flickr  1086_f by , on Flickr  1082_m by , on Flickr  1069_f by , on Flickr  1069_c by , on Flickr  1068_i by , on Flickr  1058_r by , on Flickr  1058_m by , on Flickr  1058_k by , on Flickr  1074 by , on Flickr  otago-rnzaf-harvards by , on Flickr |
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Post by paul1953 on Jul 1, 2021 7:04:23 GMT 12
Hi. Those are some amazing images!!! Now in even more of a quandary. As for my model I have since gone for the No.1 ( Auckland) Squadron choice. ( But I can change it if pushed  ) And it looks like the pics of 1058 at the end of the images above are AUckland ones. I am intrigued with the underwing bulges and gun fitting. Were these standard? Thanks for sharing those photos.  |
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Post by curtiss on Jul 1, 2021 10:32:04 GMT 12
The underwing bulges were for capture of expended shells and links. Standard fit.
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Post by paul1953 on Jul 2, 2021 8:26:10 GMT 12
I think I'll go for NZ1058 since it looks like its the Auckland unit and those are the markings I have placed on the model from the Old Models Decal set. Would like to do the others but I could always change it at a later date. Meanwhile very many thanks to everyones help and the pics. Much appreciated!  |
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) And it looks like the pics of 1058 at the end of the images above are AUckland ones. I am intrigued with the underwing bulges and gun fitting. Were these standard?
