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Post by planeimages on Jul 12, 2006 20:26:26 GMT 12
For tonight's star prize:
1. Name the aircraft.
2. Its designer and builder and where constructed.
3. Its original owner and his intentions for it.
4. The main pilot.
5. The engines fitted.
6. Registration-call sign.
7. Where it ended its days.
8. It became effectively the prototype of which aircraft.
9. How many of the latter were built.
10. What organisation used them and for what purpose?
One way of spending a cold winter's night.
The reward is showing that you know even the most useless information!
Thanks
PF
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Post by planeimages on Jul 12, 2006 20:27:02 GMT 12
Helps if I upload the pic... must be the cold.
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Post by planeimages on Jul 12, 2006 20:28:07 GMT 12
You might add where the aircraft is flying over as well and the year if you are really into this sort of thing.
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Post by yak2 on Jul 12, 2006 22:12:42 GMT 12
Designed by Lawrence Wackett and 'related ' to the Tuggan Gannet (spelling?) Apart from that, it is flying over my hometown, with the MCG visible over the port engine. Maybe the late 1930's?
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Post by yak2 on Jul 12, 2006 22:14:33 GMT 12
Correction. MCG under starboard engine!
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jul 12, 2006 22:26:16 GMT 12
Well I'd give it a crack Jack As its on the Anzac board, I'd guess it's in Australia - not that I know much about things that fly in Oz apart from the blowies. Judging by the cars on the road, its prewar. Hasn't got four wings, so its not DH. Perhaps a local design? Who built locally in Oz prewar . . . How about . . . 1 Cockatoo LJW6 Codock 2 Laurence Wackett . . . and the Cockatoo Naval Dockyard (Sydney) 3 Looks the sort of thing Charles Kingsford-Smith would have bankrolled - a small airliner for the original ANA? 4 You would have me there - Smithy himself? 5 Something useless, like a pair of British Napier Javelin engines 6 Would probably rhyme with a belch - how about VH-URP 7 Looks like the sort of thing that would be fated to end its days nose down in a field near Minchinbury sporting a painted slogan “Don’t crash, Get Penfolds” 8 The Tugan (later CAC) LJW7 Gannet was his next effort after leaving Public Service employment, had two 200 hp de Havilland Gipsy Six fitted, looked very similar. 9 Six as far as I can tell 10 Looks like the sort of thing the RAAF would buy for medivac use
Melbourne in 1934?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jul 12, 2006 22:32:05 GMT 12
Welcome to the forum yak2.
That's one ugly plane Peter.
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Post by planeimages on Jul 12, 2006 22:44:53 GMT 12
Ok, flyernzl, own up. You know almost everything. Well done.
Now that you have revealed yourself what else do you know about other A/C s which spent their days at Minchinbury? A DH 60? the J.C.Carpenter self-built machine, the Miles Gemini? Interesting that you recall that the sign said "Don't Crash Get Penfolds" many people say "drink Penfolds". I agree with you.
In reply to Dave, yes awful isn't it? The engine nacelles are worse than I thought.
Smithy intended to have the Codock flown across the Tasman to inflict it upon you with a planned airline there.
As you would know the Napiers didn't like low-octane petrol and detonated at regular intervals. I understand the Napiers had valves actuated by SOHC (well actually single underhead camshaft as the engines were installed with the heads downwards).
Six seems to tally although one source says 12 and another very authorative says 8 in all. The RAAF took 6 and I believe there were a pair of civilian-registered airframes made by Tugan at Mascot before LJW joined CAC. The CAC-built a/cs were called Wackett Gannets (LJW-7).
Thanks for your help, let's ee if anyone else can while away some time and come up with the small pilot.
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Post by planeimages on Jul 12, 2006 22:48:43 GMT 12
Thanks Yak2. Melbourne it is and the date would have been after 6 March 1934 (its maiden flight followed by some mods to make it handle better). Welcome to the forum.
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Post by yak2 on Jul 12, 2006 23:03:42 GMT 12
Thanks guys. A great site which I stumbled across a few months back when looking for Tyabb airshow stuff. Really enjoy the quality pics....especially Glenn and Peters Wanaka shots. Hopefully make it to Blenheim one Easter. Wonderful aircraft and Sav Blancs.....what a combination.
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Post by planeimages on Jul 12, 2006 23:14:40 GMT 12
Hi Yak2. Thanks for the kind compliments. Try this URL for Tyabb: planeimages.smugmug.com/gallery/1223126I will be at Tyabb later this month or early next month. Do you know Martin? Maybe you are Martin! I am planning to go to Blenheim next Easter. If WoW was hog heaven, then Blenheim will be bliss. What's a "sav blanc" fer crissake?
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Post by yak2 on Jul 12, 2006 23:26:45 GMT 12
I worked with Martin on the airshow. May have even issued you your press pass. Your smugmug gallery really captured the event. Let me know if we can be of help when you visit Tyabb. Contact me thru PAC. Rob Wettenhall Sav Blanc? ask a Kiwi!
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Post by planeimages on Jul 12, 2006 23:38:44 GMT 12
Hi yak2, Thanks again for the comments on the Tyabb Gallery. Glenn shot some great stuff there, too.
Tyabb was terrific (except for the height restrictions imposed by CASA who were hovering.)
I sure hope to meet you when I am there with Martin. I only met the ladies in the office who were extremely helpful and efficient.
I don't dare ask a Kiwi what a "Sav Blanc" is in case it is something unbearable!
Cumberland sausages at the Prescott Hillclimb School luncheon in 1896 where I drove and "won" the day were pretty strange. They looked like a coiled dog's dropping. Like something which would be described in the Monty Python at Drury Lane sketch about disgusting drinks! "Dog turd and Tonic, M'lord?"
G'night!
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Post by Bruce on Jul 12, 2006 23:53:39 GMT 12
Sauvignon Blanc - a white wine grown extensively in the Marbourough region - does pretty well in international wine awards too. We have to shorten the name so as not to frighten the aussies who spell beer XXXX !
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Post by planeimages on Jul 13, 2006 0:11:29 GMT 12
Oh, that's OK, then, Sir. You had me worried. PS. It's only Queenslanders who make and drink that stuff with the XXXX label. We just use it to clean "mag" wheels.
PPS. As a model maker you might be interested in the model of a GAF Lincoln I made some years ago from a vacuum-formed kit. Pretty rare. I made it to represent my father's last a/c A73-64 in which he perished on Mt.Superbus (Qld) 51 years ago on a mercy flight.
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