Unloved, abandoned & derelict.

[Dave Homewood]

Denys Jones has emailed with this message for the forum:

> Hi Dave,
>
> I just stumbled across the thread on the civil forum about abandoned and
> unloved and saw the bits about CRK and John Fell and the comment about
> towing it..perhaps the troops might like to see how we did actually
> bring it home to CHC.
>
> cheers

[oggie2620]

I must find the pic I have of the very sad looking crop sprayer from near Mosgiel to add to here...

[Peter Lewis]

On top of a building in a car sales yard located on the main road into the Auckland suburb of New Lynn sits this display item:



It has been there for quite a number if years, and has sported a few different colour schemes during that time (the current colours obviously date from around three years ago).
Now the proportions are such that I do not believe it is a replica or model, but that it is an actual aircraft. A Grumman American AA5 Traveller in fact.

Trawling through the possibilities, I suspect that it could be Traveller ZK-DLA.
This Grumman was registered to NZ Aerospace Industries Ltd. (the agents) in November 1973 and went to the Wellington Aero Club at Rongotai the following year.

ZK-DLA at Rongotai 5Aug1978



In early 1984 it was transferred to the Kapiti District AC at Paraparaumu but within a month was passed on to private owners in the Wellington district.
On the 26th January 1994 ZK-DLA ran off end of the strip on landing at Waiheke Island and was badly damaged. The registration was cancelled 4Mar1994.

The aircraft was certainly returned to the mainland after this adventure, this is how it arrived back at Ardmore:



So - can anyone confirm or dispute that the New Lynn 'item' is actually ZK-DLA?

[Dave Homewood]

Surely if they really want you to believe it is 100% kiwi owned and operated then it should have Dog and Wal from Footrot Flats flying the Traveller rather than those American cartoon characters.

I asked this recently but got no response, what was the aircraft that used to be "carshed into" a building" in Newmarket, Auckland, the tail of which could be seen sticking out of the second storey frontage. It was just around the corner of a side street as viewed from Broadway. It was about the same size and shape as the Traveller.

[Peter Lewis]

I am in Newmarket on a daily basis and I do not remember the artifact you describe.

In the early 2000s there was a woman s clothing shop called 'Kamikaze' that was in the southern end of Broadway, just past Balm Street and opposite where the Westpac Bank is now.
It had what purported to be the rear fuselage and a couple of wings off a Zero stacked up on top of the shop verandah as part of the decor.
It was, of course, a complete fabrication of wood and fiberglass.
The shop closed down around 2005 and the "Zero" disappeared.

The only other one I have seen around metropolitan Auckland is a billboard at the New North Road/Sandringham Road intersection in early 2007 that used parts from Flightline Cessna 152 II ZK-FJX as part of the display. I saw it at the time, but I was a bit slow in getting back there with a camera, and it had been removed before I could get a photo.

[Dave Homewood]

That must be what I am thinking of, the mock Zero, and perhaps confusing it with something else regarding how it looked.

[FlyingKiwi]

There's also the rear portion of a CT-4 embedded in the military surplus shop on K-Road. I assume it's real - if not it certainly looks the part.

[curtiss]

Some more of Proctor APH . This time at the Rhodes auction in Chch -Late


This is what happens when you leave an Oxford outside for 30 years. Near Kaikoura Sept 1980.

[shorty]

The Oxford was NZ1213 at Factory Road, Hapuku owned by Ron Howerd. Long gone, I have some photos somewhere that I took around 1970

[shamus]

Seeing those pictures of APH brings back memories. Don Subritzky and I brought it back to Auckland on my trailer towed by my Nissan C20 van (only 1200 cc motor). We came back via Hawkes Bay and somewhere in the middle of the Napier - Taupo road we got a flat tyre on the trailer. The spare of course was at the bottom of the trailer, under the Proctor. So having no option we had to lift the Proctor off to get the spare. We had a few looks from surprised motorists who must have thought, what are those idiots doing. APH was, I might add, in a more derelect condition when we got it. Now with Stan Smith, Dairy Flat.

[shamus]

ZK-CIA taken at Bridge Pa aerodrome earlier this year.

[thomarse]

I've always been surprised that those IO720s out of CIA haven't found a home in Fletchers.

[Deleted]

Well I know of a project that could do with at least one....

[Bruce]

CIA isnt an Excalibur - It will still have Lycoming IGSO -540's or -480s (Depending on which model it is...) . These are such oddball engines its no wonder they are still attached!

[Dave.K]

EQC sitting alone at Alexandra, doesn't exist on the CAA redgister anymore.

[Peter Lewis]

ZK-EQC has been there for at least five years.

Shamus, you may have the fuselage and other bits of Proctor ZK-APH, but the wings are sitting on a truck at the Ashburton Aviation Museum.

[shamus]

Interesting Peter, but Don was supposed to get those wings from the owner in exchange for the first replica Hurricane displayed at Motat. Don got the Hurricane and despatched it to Christchurch but no wings have been given in return. It would be interesting to know the ownership status of these wings now.

[Peter Lewis]

Piper PA28 Cherokee 140D ZK-CUY
ex-Waikato AC back in the 1970s.
Currently registered to New Zealand Flying School Ltd., Christchurch

At Brodies field, Rangitata Island - has been sitting there for a few years now.

[Peter Lewis]

Dec 4, 2010 8:18:56 GMT 12 Peter Lewis said:

On top of a building in a car sales yard located on the main road into the Auckland suburb of New Lynn sits this display item:

Drove through New Lynn today for the first time in quite a while.

The Grumman has gone from the roof.

[FlyingKiwi]

Blown away in the recent wind maybe? Incidentally the PA-28 EQC above was still at Alexandra in February this year, looking much the same except now covered partly with a blue tarpaulin.