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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 20, 2007 12:58:00 GMT 12
What happened to the Rhonlerche glider that the RNZAF Museum had in 1991, which they restored to wartime colours to mark the 50th Anniversary of the Air Training Corp? It was in a special temporary display that year.
Is it still held by the Museum or did it move on?
I have seen photos of other ATC gliders in RNZAF markings too, some with modern kiwi roundels. There's at least one in this clip
How many gliders have served with the ATC in RNZAF colours?
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Post by flyjoe180 on Nov 20, 2007 14:00:59 GMT 12
Cool video. I started gliding in a Rhonlerche GKE, which was in blue and white ATC colours with the old ATCANZ Air Cadet roundel. Unsure what happened to it, maybe it is the one in the museum. I don't know any that wore RNZAF colours but I'm talking 1987 onwards, so there must have ben some before that. The ATC became independant from the RNZAF in 1971, so it is likely that RNZAF insignia may have been removed after that time.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Nov 20, 2007 14:03:49 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 20, 2007 14:13:35 GMT 12
That 2007 video I linked to shows a glider with the RNZAF Kiwi roundel - see from 1.20mins, the red and white glider with the letters AU on the tail
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Post by flyjoe180 on Nov 20, 2007 14:19:32 GMT 12
That would be a historical scheme, I thought you meant gliders in past/current ATC service, not in private hands?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 20, 2007 15:26:57 GMT 12
I have no idea which are private or which are current. I didn't realise there were 'warbird'gliders in NZ. Cool.
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Post by lesterpk on Nov 20, 2007 18:40:08 GMT 12
Arrrrggghhh, they've got the roundel on that glider backwards on the fuse and facing the wrong way on the wing. Sacrilege.
Les.
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Post by kiwichappers on Nov 20, 2007 22:33:25 GMT 12
ZK-GAU is owned by Kevin Wiznewski from Taranaki and I am currently researching it and ZK-GAL as modelling projects. It appears to have been flying for a while as I first came across it on a Taranaki Daily News calender my father sent to me earlier this year.
The colour scheme seems very close to that used by the RAF ATC flights and may be styled on this rather than a RNZAF scheme. I will ask Kevin about the the derevation of the colour scheme and also the wayward roundels in my next lot of correspondence and keep you posted.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Nov 21, 2007 9:01:34 GMT 12
The ATC roundel I remember wasn't an RNZAF kiwi, but a symmetrical bird with swept wings facing forwards. I cant find a picture but pretty sure the roundel I recall was the old ATCANZ logo.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Nov 21, 2007 9:15:35 GMT 12
Found one. This one has been 'stylised', the original being blue white and red as in the RNZAF roundel.  |
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Post by fletcherfu24 on Nov 21, 2007 21:27:53 GMT 12
ZK-GAE is a genuine warbird,it was built during WW2,and more than likely saw Luftwaffe service.
I'm sure K13's and the Slingsby metal 2 seater have worn RNZAF schemes.
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Post by lumpy on Nov 23, 2007 20:39:46 GMT 12
That is a very interesting list of historical gliders , thanks Joe . Should I feel old that my first ever solo aircraft is on the list , and the tug was a Tiger Moth ? ( that was of course before the tiger was up graded to the better performing Piper cub ) :-)
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Post by expatkiwi on Oct 2, 2012 5:56:23 GMT 12
I got my ATC solo glider wings in 1980 on a Ronlerche. I think it was GKE. It was at Hobsonville. A long time ago.
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Post by Damon on May 12, 2013 20:51:58 GMT 12
Thought I'd bump this thread. Some information is no longer available. Does any one have an up to date info on what the ATC use these days as far as gliders and where their camps are held etc. Just interested in finding out.
Cheers
Damon
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Post by flyjoe180 on May 14, 2013 16:04:48 GMT 12
Hi Damon. Sqwark2k will be able to inform us as he is involved with the ATC flying camps directly.
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Post by conman on May 14, 2013 22:09:25 GMT 12
They generally use other clubs gliders we host ATC weekends at the Auckland Gliding Club on a regular basis and they use our 2 seaters, I think there has also been a recent weekend camp at the Whangarei Club at Puhipuhi
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Post by shorty on May 16, 2013 20:20:58 GMT 12
When I was ASF at Ohakea about 1971/72 there was an ATC glider bought into the hangar for a couple of days to have some work done (or perhaps for it's initial assembly?) I'm not great on glider recognition but it was a two seat, all metal, with, I think, swept forward wings. From memory it had standard kwiw roundels and the title Air Training Corps painted on the fuselage
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Post by baronbeeza on May 16, 2013 20:26:58 GMT 12
That would be a Blanik, Shorty. They would have been a very popular training glider for a few decades from the 70's onwards.
The Wigram Gliding Club had at least one during the 80's.
It may well have been initial assembly as I have a feeling they arrived in country about 1971.
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Post by shorty on May 16, 2013 21:40:51 GMT 12
For some reason I thought it was a Slingsby, my feeling is that the nose and canopy don't gell with my memory of Blaniks
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Post by Damon on May 17, 2013 7:49:52 GMT 12
Are some of the old ATC gliders still about, even airworthy?
The other day I saw a short doc. called 'Skylarks and Simon's Hill' as additional footage at the end of a DVD. About the Canterbury Gliding Club having summer camps in South Canterbury. Some footage of the Weihe and tow plane Tiger Moths. Great stuff.
Does the Air Force Museum have a glider or two?
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