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Post by FlyNavy on Jun 11, 2008 1:33:52 GMT 12
What was the Martin-Baker Mark of ejection seat used in the RNZAF Strikemaster please? Tah. I gather it is the same seat that was on display in the Ohakea museum?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 11, 2008 1:45:20 GMT 12
From memory it was a Martin baker PB Mk. 4 seat. Yes they did have one at the Ohakea Museum along with some other seats.
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Post by FlyNavy on Jun 11, 2008 2:09:20 GMT 12
Thanks. Courtesy of CoarseAir67 from the recent Canberra Navy Day display here is the Macchi MB326H Mk.4B Martin-Baker - note the canopy breakers top either side.  Also courtesy of aforementioned FoulAir67 is a compilation of the defunct Ohakea museum Strikemaster MB4 seat display:  |
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Post by FlyNavy on Jun 11, 2008 9:51:36 GMT 12
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Post by phil on Jun 11, 2008 18:08:44 GMT 12
Dave has copies of the images I took at the OH museum at the time it closed, these include the Blunty seat.. Note that the Strikemaster seat differs in a few detail to the one above, specifically the head box.
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Post by FlyNavy on Jun 11, 2008 18:46:53 GMT 12
Phil, Sorry that is clear as mud to me not having seen a blunty or strikemaster. Is either seat also a Martin-Baker Mk.4? Yes there are often noticeable differences between seats (for various aircraft) in any given Mark of Martin-Baker. However is it a Mark 4 seat? I'm trying to establish references for Martin-Baker Mk.4 seats of whatever persuasion. Thanks. Phil. ;D
BTW please does anyone have photos of Martin-Baker Mk.3B seats as used in the Vampire for example? Or at least as used in the dual seat version. Once again I'm trying to reference the Mk.3 but specifically as used in the trainer Vampire. And on that score as used in the dual seat Venom but I guess the Kiwis had only single seat Venoms? I'm vague on that detail.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 11, 2008 18:59:07 GMT 12
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Post by beagle on Jun 11, 2008 19:08:17 GMT 12
From memory the parachute assy was the MBEU 6011 PA and the survival pack was the BA MK1
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Post by FlyNavy on Jun 11, 2008 19:43:25 GMT 12
Thanks that is a great web page for the former museum. May it resurrect itself soon.
beagle: Thanks for the extra info about the PB Mk.4. There is a lot of different information on the web that just makes things unclear. Often everything about an aircraft will be described with the ejection seat totally ignored. Perhaps these people don't know either. Dunno meself.
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Post by Parrotfish on Jun 11, 2008 20:14:37 GMT 12
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Post by FlyNavy on Jun 11, 2008 20:21:36 GMT 12
Parrotfish, thanks. Another question. Understanding the left/right issue was that 'box' on the top some kind of emergency canopy breaker? Did not the canopy have an explosive cord charge to shatter the canopy? TIA.
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Post by sniff on Jun 11, 2008 20:42:18 GMT 12
From an innocent bystanders point of view - I was in the 42 Sqn hangar next door, but took every opportunity to go for a fast jet experience (well, much faster than a Dak, anyway) - the first tranche of Blunties only had canopy breakers, but I think the second bunch came with MDC, which was subsequently retrofitted to the fleet. No doubt some hung like a horse cracker stacker will give us the good oil, though.
;D
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Post by FlyNavy on Jun 11, 2008 21:32:41 GMT 12
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Post by phil on Jun 11, 2008 21:55:43 GMT 12
Strikemaster seat was, as dave said, a MB PBMk4. The one in the museum photo with the pilot dummy is the Strikemaster seat. The black and white photo above is a MK4, but not the same configuration that was used in the Strikemaster.
It was a wee bit before my time, but as I understand it, prior to the MDC being fitted the canopy had to actually go first. The MDC was retrofitted to the whole fleet and saved one pilot's life. He hit wires and went in, ejecting just in time. It was calculated that the seat cleared the aircraft at the same time the nose hit the ground. At that time not all the aircraft had the MDC fitted, but fortunately for him the aircraft he was flying did. Have he had to wait for the canopy to go, he wouldn't have got out.
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Post by sniff on Jun 11, 2008 21:56:38 GMT 12
I thought that was just a horse speaking through an ass?
;D ;D ;D
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Post by sniff on Jun 11, 2008 21:59:53 GMT 12
Yep, he recalls watching the nose crumple as he departed the aircraft. Only the downslope on the other side of the ridge he hit saved his bacon!
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Post by sniff on Jun 11, 2008 22:10:12 GMT 12
Yep, that gels in my mind now too. Well hung ... er, done, Phil! As for the bowyangs, they were a nasty legbreaker if you didn't have your feet on the rudder pedals!  |
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Post by beagle on Jun 11, 2008 22:13:02 GMT 12
Just trying to think who it was that banged out.
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Post by sniff on Jun 11, 2008 22:17:27 GMT 12
Me too! Tall blond guy. Someone will know.  |
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Post by tibor on Jun 11, 2008 22:22:05 GMT 12
Me too! Tall blond guy. Someone will know. Pilot Officer P. Lindsay, collided with power lines and crashed into hillside at Waiau, North Canterbury during low level navigational training flight 03 JUL 85. |
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