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Post by snafu on Feb 24, 2019 9:58:05 GMT 12
Well the US has some informal plans to buy F15X to complement the F35/22, trump can do the art of the deal if you buy another 18, I bet the RAAF will be happy too
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Post by machina on Feb 26, 2019 17:38:56 GMT 12
I am green with envy hearing from my Melbourne mate about what's flying in the skies above him today. It adds to the depression regarding the state of our own airforce. If only
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Post by tfly on Mar 3, 2019 3:44:54 GMT 12
Interesting watch for those that might be interested. It sort of explains quite a lot really and is but if a revelation in respect to WWII, the Cold War that followed and why NATO still exists. I know not strictly speaking to do with Combat Force but certainly a reason why (IMHO) NZ should be in a position to ‘play its part’ if called on to do so. www.bbc.com/ideas/videos/the-blueprint-for-world-domination-that-spooked-am/p07087xd
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Post by saratoga on Mar 3, 2019 16:32:05 GMT 12
I saw a comment on the Avalon airshow FB page, someone moaning about "oh, thats what those noisy jets are doing, they are ruining my peace". I had to laugh.
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Post by 30sqnatc on Mar 3, 2019 17:06:26 GMT 12
Reading on some groups one of the Pakistan (ex NZ deal) F16 may have been downed by India.
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Post by isc on Mar 3, 2019 21:15:54 GMT 12
And one of India's MIG 21s by Pakistan. isc
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Post by baz62 on Mar 4, 2019 9:54:12 GMT 12
And one of India's MIG 21s by Pakistan. isc Going by the photos is actually a Bae Hawk, unless the photos show the wrong crash site!
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 4, 2019 11:43:06 GMT 12
And one of India's MIG 21s by Pakistan. isc Going by the photos is actually a Bae Hawk, unless the photos show the wrong crash site! The amount of propaganda and mis-information around on this is significant. Still lots of unconfirmed statements and claims.
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Post by isc on Mar 4, 2019 13:28:59 GMT 12
I think one bulliton I heard said a Bison, but that is a heavy bomber that I think the indian AF use for maratime patrol, to be replaced by the P-8 I, so who knows. isc
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Post by ErrolC on Mar 4, 2019 14:00:16 GMT 12
Tricky one, Bison appears to be the Indian name for the MiG-21, which they built under licence. The Myasishchev M-4 (only used by USSR/Russia) had the NATO reporting name Bison. The Indian Navy had the Tupolev Tu-142 (NATO: Bear), replaced by the P-8I. Most of that I had to look up, I'd only noted that the Indians call their M-G-21s 'Bison'!
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Post by baz62 on Mar 4, 2019 14:49:17 GMT 12
Whatever it was it's certainly not flying again. Hopefully it will settle down now.............
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Post by isc on Mar 4, 2019 22:25:00 GMT 12
They have been at it for about 60 yrs now, ever since partition, and there has been dispute for centuries before that. isc
PS I think I got a bit muddled with Bisons and Bears.
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Post by shorty on Mar 5, 2019 12:46:02 GMT 12
Perhaps we should put our hand up for some Tornado GR 4s?
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Post by kiwirico on Mar 8, 2019 7:39:29 GMT 12
I was wondering, before the F-16A/B was selected to replace the A-4's... did RNZAF considered the Hawk 200 as a serious candidate? I frequently read that the Hawk 200 was seen as a likely asset... although I have doubt if they could take the task the A-4 did 🙄
KiwiRico
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Post by machina on Mar 8, 2019 18:43:34 GMT 12
The Hawk would be cool now.
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Post by mcmaster on Mar 9, 2019 11:12:25 GMT 12
Perhaps we should put our hand up for some Tornado GR 4s? I think something with a F prefix should be the first priority.
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Post by horicle on Mar 9, 2019 13:04:49 GMT 12
The only thing that will work is the Scorpion (think 'combat kindergarten' which can cover recon, surveillance, interdiction, armed policing) but since the political will is weak it is just an interesting conversation.
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Post by saratoga on Mar 9, 2019 13:59:29 GMT 12
kind of agree, as a fledgling force, but the Scorpian needs a P for proven before it could even be considered, if the will was there.
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Post by skyhawkdon on Mar 9, 2019 15:55:24 GMT 12
I was wondering, before the F-16A/B was selected to replace the A-4's... did RNZAF considered the Hawk 200 as a serious candidate? I frequently read that the Hawk 200 was seen as a likely asset... although I have doubt if they could take the task the A-4 did 🙄 KiwiRico We regularly flew against the Hawk 200 with the A-4K in Malaysia and Indonesia in the late 90s and they were no match for the A-4 (in 2000 the kill ratio was 18:0 in favour of the A-4 after a week DACT!). Both had exactly the same radar (APG-66) but the Kahu A-4's Avionics and weapon system integration was far better, not to mention the pilots. The Hawk also didn't have the unrefuelled range, payload or speed of the A-4.
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Post by typerated on Mar 9, 2019 21:35:01 GMT 12
I'd agree on the Hawk - but I've seen a pair of Hawks on CAP nail a 4 ship of F-16s
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