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Post by obiwan27 on Dec 8, 2009 20:06:20 GMT 12
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Post by Peter Lewis on Dec 8, 2009 21:57:01 GMT 12
Be interested to hear if its changed since I was there about five years ago.
Cessna 172 strung up in the roof and lots of Hunters about.
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Post by obiwan27 on Dec 11, 2009 15:38:55 GMT 12
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Post by 30sqnatc on Dec 11, 2009 16:47:15 GMT 12
Those poor pilots sitting in the cockpits all day in the roasting tropical sun  Seriously having crew members really adds to the plinted aircraft especially the UH-1 |
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Post by davekiwi on Dec 11, 2009 17:15:28 GMT 12
Just goes to show, live some-where, ( and I have been in Singapore for 7 years -- and its only three MRT stops from home, 1 x bus ride) and ya never actually know what's on ya doorstep.
To rub it in - work in SINGPOST building next door to Paya Lebar MRT -- see plenty of "traffic" on approach.
Guess I will have to go ad have a pokie over weekend :-).
Thanks for the info.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Dec 11, 2009 18:26:36 GMT 12
Great photos. I agree that the dummy pilots in the outdoor displays really add something.
I had forgotten that Singapore had those odd two-seat Skyhawks, cool to see.
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Post by obiwan27 on Dec 11, 2009 19:39:17 GMT 12
To rub it in - work in SINGPOST building next door to Paya Lebar MRT -- see plenty of "traffic" on approach. Yep you're right about the 'traffic,' while waiting to catch the 94 bus outside the Eunos MRT I saw an F-16 on finals into Paya Lebar Air Base. My camera was in my backpack and any photo taken would have just shown a dot rather than any detail. Still cool to see after 8 years of non-fast jet 'traffic' in NZ skies. Well, RNZAF ones anyway.... |
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Post by obiwan27 on Dec 11, 2009 20:14:14 GMT 12
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Post by skyhawkdon on Dec 12, 2009 7:29:19 GMT 12
Thanks for the photos Ken. When I was there last year they were preparing the Skyhawk and Hunter to go up on the poles. They have done a fantastic job of presenting them (something for the RNZAF Museum to think about?). It won't be long and the Singaporians will have one of their early model F-16As in the museum. Amazing how they went from Cessna 172s to F-16s in just 20 years! The Hunter is a nice looking aircraft. Good to see one presented with all those missiles and bombs. Looks very cool.
Payah Lebar is where their F-5s and C-130s are based. We used to go there with our Skyhawks and our flight line was almost right behind where the museum is. STI Aerospace do a lot of servicing of other aircraft types there so it isn't unusual to see F-16s and the likes coming and going. The Americans also have a facility there called "Commando Sling" which is for transiting USAF aircraft. We usually used their hangar and facilities. We were there in September 2001 on our final Vanguard when 9/11 happened and the place got VERY busy with USAF aircraft heading to the Gulf!
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Post by baz62 on Dec 12, 2009 9:21:03 GMT 12
Great photos Ken, that "2 seater" A4S sure looks weird. Wonder what was in the fuse where the second bod sat? Surely not just empty space? Or was he straddling something?
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Post by nige on Dec 12, 2009 9:56:39 GMT 12
Beautiful!!!!
Sigh, if only here in NZ some arts & hertiage funding were diverted towards such projects. Eg like the Singaporians, strategically, one would have such a museum in Auckland, being NZ's largest city, and thus allow the most people to visit such attractions (and also keep defence foremost in people's eyes). That's not to say remove the museum from Wigram, of course not, because of Wigram's place in RNZAF history. For Auckland, where? Something new? Or something in association with MoTAT? or something in association with the Dominion War Museum? Or something joint with the Army and Navy? Auckland is rather fortunate, as there are so many possibilities...
Heh, heh, my wishlist would be for three A-4's, one painted in the old SEA camoflage scheme, one in the RAN scheme (yes, why not! After all the RAN & RNZAF had/have a close association etc) and of course a Kahu scheme. We've still got the Strikemasters. Plus the Vampire at Ohakea. Where oh where could we get a Canberra....
Of course there's other types around, Bristol Freighters, Andovers ... maybe in the future a Herc!
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Post by skyhawkdon on Dec 12, 2009 14:30:53 GMT 12
There are 3 Canberras in NZ. Wigram has 2 (one on display and one stored) and there is the gate guard at the Wanaka Transport Museum.
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Post by obiwan27 on Dec 12, 2009 17:40:43 GMT 12
Great photos Ken, that "2 seater" A4S sure looks weird. Wonder what was in the fuse where the second bod sat? Surely not just empty space? Or was he straddling something? There's a two seater forward fuse that you can walk along a platform for a close up look. Shame the canopy's are shut but nice to have a close up peep. Boy, the A4s 'office' looks snug! The back seater looks like they sit atop of the intake area for the engine compartment. Don can no doubt enlighten us further :-)   |
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Post by corsair67 on Dec 12, 2009 18:07:29 GMT 12
The backseater takes up space where a fuel tank would be located in the TA-4 series, so wouldn't it'd be the same for these Singaporean ones as well?
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Post by flyjoe180 on Dec 13, 2009 9:36:15 GMT 12
What an amazingly well presented and clean museum display. Those outdoor displays must be difficult to maintain in such pristine condition. Thanks for posting your photos.
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Post by obiwan27 on Dec 13, 2009 14:40:43 GMT 12
What an amazingly well presented and clean museum display. Those outdoor displays must be difficult to maintain in such pristine condition. Thanks for posting your photos. Hi flyjoe180 all of the aircraft displayed outside and inside the museum are immaculate they are all in a gloss finish paint scheme (not sure if this is different from when they were in service) and absolutely spotless. there was an Aunty going around mopping the floor when I arrive at about 10:30am, I'm not sure if cleaning the aircraft is part of her brief but Singapore employs an army of cleaners to keep the whole bloody country looking clean. |
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Post by obiwan27 on Dec 13, 2009 15:20:55 GMT 12
Some more pics... Firstly the 'fact/info sheet' on the single seat A4S. Interesting it was equipped with British avionics and guns, not sure what the Yanks thought about that lol    Bloodhound missile  As you can seen the RSAF is a very diverse and well equipped Air Force....   In the International Relationships section there were displayed a great deal of gifts from various regional Air Forces such as Malaysia, Thailand and Indonesia etc as well as a massive Aussie contribution (the ties between Australia and Singapore I gather are pretty 'tight' militarily and economically) as well as two from NZ, both presented by Air Vice Marshall D. E. Jamieson back in the good old days of 1981. |
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