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Post by murray86 on Apr 6, 2010 17:53:16 GMT 12
I have ex-RNZAF Airtourer T6/24 NZ1761/ZK-LDG. I want to restore it to its final RNZAF colour scheme, and am trying to get a copy of the drawings. I have managed to get the Singaporean one, and suspect the basic placards are the same, but what about the roundels and serial numbers? Can anyone help?
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Post by Damon on Apr 6, 2010 20:12:40 GMT 12
Murray is 'LDG not in its old RNZAF uniform.Had it been repainted after it left the Air Force?
Warren Russlls book NZPAF RNZAF Aircraft Colour Schemes Vol.1 has a couple of pics of the Airtourers.
Care to post a picture or two of how the aircraft looks now?
Damon
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 6, 2010 20:21:53 GMT 12
Forum member Barf, the paint scheme expert from the Air Force Museum, is the man to ask. He'll no doubt be along here very soon.
Welcome to the forum Murray. Where is your Airtourer based? I did the final ever paint job on the Airtourer fleet the week before they left the RNZAF. That was removing the roundels.
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Post by sqwark2k on Apr 6, 2010 21:12:06 GMT 12
Murray, I have 2 B&W photo's of NZ1762 which you're welcome to copies of. One is of 62 on the ground with what seems like an altered roundel... almost looks like the silver fern roundel. The other picture is of 62 airborne over a port city with the kiwi roundel.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 6, 2010 22:22:43 GMT 12
You lucky, lucky man I did a lot of flying in T6/24 ZK-WBW before it went overseas, and it's still my most-favorite aircraft. Here is a photo of NZ1763 taken 19th January 1976 which may help your colour scheme research.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 6, 2010 22:28:49 GMT 12
Where is that location Peter? it looks almost Soviet!
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Post by Damon on Apr 6, 2010 22:31:23 GMT 12
I couldnt find ZK-WBW in the current listings .When did 'WBW' leave these shores and when.Shame its gone.
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Post by beagle on Apr 6, 2010 22:40:08 GMT 12
try this for size
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Post by beagle on Apr 6, 2010 22:44:57 GMT 12
and this
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Post by caromeg on Apr 9, 2010 15:47:47 GMT 12
Weren't these initially purchased to train the Army Helo Pilots?
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Post by kiwirotorwrench on Apr 9, 2010 16:16:10 GMT 12
I thought I had heard that they were supposed to be used for the Officer Cadets doing the University Scheme at Canterbury. Might have just been a rumour though, as has been known to happen once or twice in ones career!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 9, 2010 16:18:42 GMT 12
I had heard that too about the officer cadet scheme, Keith. A bit like the University Air Squadrons of the olden days in Britain
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Post by beagle on Apr 9, 2010 20:07:26 GMT 12
not 100% sure bu t one was at Woodbourne for any ground based pilots to have a play with, as the boss at the IRD did . this is going back to '85, '86. Pretty sure it was a Des Ashton. He took me up one lunch time after I turned up at work very green under the gills after a hell of a good night.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 9, 2010 20:30:52 GMT 12
According to Aircraft of the Royal New Zealand Air Force by David Duxbury, Ross Ewing and Ross Macpherson, they entered service at Flying Training Wing in May 1970 for flight grading of Air Force pilots and for basic flying training for the Army helicopter pilots and Air Training Corps pilots. With two Sioux, at the time the book was written in 1987, the Airtourers comprised the Light Fixed Wing/Light Rotary Wing Flight of Pilot training Squadron.
When you think about it, the four RNZAF T6/24 Airtourers have had a remarkable safety record, all four flying continuously since 1970 till today through military and civil careers without any accidents as far as I am aware.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Apr 9, 2010 21:14:36 GMT 12
ZK-JBZ ex NZ1762 overran strip Reeve, Great Barrier Island, 8Jan99 and was badly damaged. Rebuilt by Colin P Grounsell at Thames and restored as ZK-CPG 29Jan2004.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 9, 2010 23:04:26 GMT 12
Ah. Oh well, they had a good record in the RNZAF I believe. Not often an entire fleet can survive to the end of service intact, put it that way.
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Post by beagle on Apr 11, 2010 19:33:02 GMT 12
F-27 C421c BAE 748 Andover B727 S-2F
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Post by shorty on Apr 11, 2010 20:16:01 GMT 12
When I was at PTS we were also told that there was a political aspect to their purchase also, in as much that AESL could tell prospective large customers that they were already in service with an Air Force and those hopefully help secure a contract.
Sounded pretty logical to me.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Apr 11, 2010 20:34:14 GMT 12
I had wondered if there was a political aspect like that.
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Post by caromeg on Apr 12, 2010 8:23:05 GMT 12
Why not - every other country does it.
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