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Post by chinapilot on Jun 15, 2010 0:30:37 GMT 12
Idly going through the net one night came across this image taken at Rongotai..can anyone put a date on it?
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Post by Peter Lewis on Jun 16, 2010 22:06:33 GMT 12
Looks to be Avian IIIA ZK-AAC ex G-NZAV owned by P Berryman, Wellington. Crashed Rongotai 24 August 1930. Restored after this accident.
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Post by chinapilot on Jun 17, 2010 0:24:10 GMT 12
Thanks for that ...looks like two seperate accidents?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 17, 2010 0:29:28 GMT 12
Looks like the same barefooted boy in the right of both shots.
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Post by DragonflyDH90 on Jun 17, 2010 8:05:40 GMT 12
One is wearing a jersey the other rolled up sleeved shirt. Still could be the same accident though.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 17, 2010 9:23:53 GMT 12
Actually looking more closely, none of the kids have shoes. Might well be a different boy.
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Post by Bruce on Jun 17, 2010 10:34:59 GMT 12
There always seem to be small boys in pictures of old crashes! Nowadays of course the area for a km around would be cordoned off and no-one could approach without security clearance and a Hi - Viz jacket......
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Post by chinapilot on Jun 17, 2010 20:12:32 GMT 12
The boy on the right in the photo I posted appears to be my Uncle [comparing with family photos etc] in Rongotai College uniform who evidently was always at the field, later on he got a Box Brownie and photographed many aircraft at Rongotai in the '30s... Looks like two different accidents...prop is smashed on flyernzl's photo. Interesting that most of the boys are barefooted...
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Post by shorty on Jun 18, 2010 19:02:01 GMT 12
Nothing at all unusual about the barefoot boys, it was the norm in NZ until at least the mid fifties. I lived in an Auckland suburb and never used to wear shoes (or sandals) to school until I started at Intermediate in the mid fifties. The only times that kids wore them was for the day the class photo was taken. Even a lot of girls used to go barefoot, it wasn't a poverty thing either as it was a middle class suburb, if your Mum insisted that you wore shoes that would be taken off as soon as you were out of sight and stuffed in your school bag or hidden in a hedge until you were on your way home.
The photo that was posted would have been during the depression so lack of money would have been a factor then for sure.
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Post by ErrolC on Jun 18, 2010 19:43:17 GMT 12
When my Nana sent box brownie photos back to the rellies in England, they were horrified that the kids had no shoes. Feet measurements were demanded, and shoes were sent out to the 'poor cousins'. It was handy to have them cover the 'shoes for good' that could be afforded anyway.
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Post by John L on Jun 18, 2010 20:36:34 GMT 12
I used to wear bare feet in Browns Bay, until the late 60's.When I went to Suva, I quickly bought a pair of jandals.......
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Post by thomarse on Jun 20, 2010 14:05:58 GMT 12
Unless I'm going nuts (highly likely) there's been a post removed from here that referred to the book "Skyways of Maoriland".
A great old read - anyone else got a copy?
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Post by chinapilot on Jun 21, 2010 0:11:43 GMT 12
Think it's on the Wellington AC thread
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 21, 2010 17:39:42 GMT 12
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Post by thomarse on Jun 22, 2010 8:35:54 GMT 12
Delete "going nuts", replace with "gone"
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Post by shamus on Jun 22, 2010 17:16:27 GMT 12
I also have a copy of 'Skyways of Maoriland' an interesting book. Like most kids I also loved going to school in barefeet, summer or winter in Christchurch. Tough guys in those days.
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Post by angelsonefive on Jun 30, 2010 20:21:19 GMT 12
Absence of footwear on the young ones is not all that surprising. 1930 was well into the economic slump also known as The Depression. Most kids had only one pair of shoes, if that, and they would be kept for special occasions. I knew it was a bad time from accounts by older family members, but not how bad until recently when I came across Tony Simpson's book about that grim era in our young country's history 'The Sugarbag Years'. Sobering stuff, and recommended reading for all.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 30, 2010 20:49:22 GMT 12
Something I have always wondered, to stray further of topic for a minute... the hemp sugarbags of old have a pungent and distinctive smell to them. Did it used to taint the flavour of the sugar?
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Post by eieio on Jul 1, 2010 6:59:15 GMT 12
No flavouring that I recall Dave, my parents used to buy sugar in 70lb bags due to that old fashioned idea of preserving fruits[grown on the farm] ,do recall the smell but not that great.
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