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Post by aussieo2 on Oct 14, 2010 14:16:59 GMT 12
Trying to ascertain the 'fate' of the following Bandeirante a/c.
110267/ERU, @ Tauwhare Military Museum ?
110378/TZL, @ Hamilton as Fire & Smoke Trainer ?
110305/JCM, unknown
110248/KML, unknown
110184/REX, unknown.
Any help much appreciated, thanks.
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Post by Bruce on Oct 14, 2010 14:24:21 GMT 12
ERU is still at the Museum at Tauwhare.
TZL (One of the aircraft I looked after at CityJet) was at Hamilton until earlier this year when the site was cleared for the Titanium business park - I beleive it has been scrapped.
KML was scrapped after Eagle purchased the Cityjet fleet in 2001
I think REX was scrapped after Rex / transair service, and JCM is with Dr Dave Baldwin at Palmerston North.
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Post by aussieo2 on Oct 14, 2010 18:44:48 GMT 12
(JCM to Dr Dave Baldwin).. seems all info on the net suggests that his is 110274/REV, not JCM
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Post by Peter Lewis on Oct 14, 2010 19:04:56 GMT 12
ZK-JCM - to Air New Zealand technical school at Mangere for use as instructional airframe May 03
ZK-REV - Dismantled at Wellington as spare parts for shipment to Singapore, fuselage to Massey, Palmerston North then to Dr Baldwin, Milson
ZK-REX/2 - WFU & RTS at Wellington Airport
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Post by Bruce on Oct 14, 2010 19:47:21 GMT 12
yeah Dr Daves Bandit was a bit of a guess I admit (hence the "I think" proviso) - it wasnt one of "mine".....  |
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Oct 14, 2010 19:52:54 GMT 12
ZK-REX/2 - WFU & RTS at Wellington Airport Was that the Bandit hulk on the Rongotai side of Wellington Airport? I remember seeing that there before the Airport Retail Centre was developed. |
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Post by madaero on Oct 20, 2010 18:32:43 GMT 12
110378 was sold to a fellow down near Palmerston North about 2 years ago.He also bought Murray Barkers metroliner shell that used to sit behind PAC in an open walled haybarn.Last i heard he had converted both frames into outside bedrooms for his children.
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Post by Peter Lewis on Oct 20, 2010 19:53:39 GMT 12
Bloody lucky kids.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Oct 24, 2010 17:34:43 GMT 12
He's still developing the Metroliner, recreating a full instrument panel and interior. Comes out occasionally at Palmerston North to measure things and take pictures of the Life Flight ambulances.
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Post by 43willys on Oct 25, 2010 12:46:55 GMT 12
I was a storeman for Eagle Air at the time, they stopped using the Bandits. I may have already put these photos on this site before. I had also at that time kept aside parts for Murray Barkers metroliner in the hope of Free beer for life, but was made Redundant shortly after. So these parts were probably scrapped.   |
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Post by madaero on Oct 25, 2010 13:01:05 GMT 12
nice to see these pics 43willys,brings bak fond memories of having to talk to you guys about moving them so we could mow the grass. I think murray promised quite a few people free beers at the tav when he was gunna put the plane in there,myself included,haha. Pity it neva quite took off like he envisaged aye.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Oct 25, 2010 13:55:26 GMT 12
I hadn't seen these photos before mike, a modern day Rukuhia graveyard.
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Post by madaero on Oct 25, 2010 14:05:35 GMT 12
one by one they were fitted with extra fuel tanks and flown to australia for memory
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Post by Bruce on Oct 25, 2010 21:52:09 GMT 12
Some of my CityJet fleet awaiting disposal at Hamilton Mid 2000: TZL:  KML and TZM (I think)  Happier Days: (Photo by John King)  Much as I enjoyed my role at CityJet, the bosses had got the outfit into a complete shambles as far as airworthiness! The two ex Ansett machines (TZN and TZM) were retreivable and went to Eagle, but KML and TZL, having served the longest with Tranzglobal / CityJet had the biggest flight time corrections to be made. KML was a real workhorse, shabby but apart from a regular nosewheel shimmy, it barely ever had mechanical problems. TZL was terrible, it was a later S/n than our other bandits, and had a completely different avionics fit (Which always gave trouble) and a number of other parts which were not interchangable with the other machines. Unfortunately a restraint of trade clause with Ansett meant we couldnt use the best Bandit TZN on our scheduled pax flights so we had to put the doggy old TZL on the scheds instead - Which didn't help reliability much! |
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Oct 31, 2010 20:43:06 GMT 12
The first time I ever flew in a Bandit it was with Eagle Airways (prior to the merger with Air Central) on a Friday evening flight from Gisborne to Napier. I often used to fly down to Hawke's Bay for the weekend. Often it was in one of Eagle Airways' Piper Chieftans. Sometimes I used to fly in Air Central's Mitsubishi MU-2s. A couple of times, I flew with an airline called East Air (I've still got one of their tickets somewhere). They used to fly between Napier and Gisborne (using a Chieftan) and between Napier and the Chatham Islands (I think they may have used a Metroliner on the Chathams run). On their Napier to Gisborne (and vice-versa) flights, they put a refreshment pack (a carton of fruit juice, a couple of biscuits, and a piece of fruit) in the pocket of each seat-back. I cannot ever recall any other commuter airlines providing a refreshment service like that.
Later, I flew in Eagle Air's Bandits a few times between Gisborne and Auckland after Air NZ withdrew the Fokker Friendships.
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Post by haughtney1 on Nov 2, 2010 19:47:10 GMT 12
Interesting Pics, gee wizz, the pics of the crappyjet Bandits bring back memories. I have about 100 hrs in my logbook with KML & TZL featuring the most.
When they went bust, they owed me 2 months wages plus some overtime...I wonder what ever happened to that Mosen character...as for Webb, well hes still the same oxygen thief today as he was then.
Shame really..but the place had grown too big for its boots and got squashed by higher powers.
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Post by Bruce on Nov 2, 2010 22:18:33 GMT 12
Ahh, so you're an ex CJ Galley slave too Haughtney! I also lost a fair chunk of salary in the whole business. I ended up working for the receiver for 6 months or so trying to get the aircraft back to a fit state for sale so everyone could get something back, but unfortunately they were owned by Pyranees, a holding company, so their sale paid off the negligible debt that company had incurred, and the main CityJet debts could only be serviced from the meagre assets actually in CJs name - learnt a lot about how businesses ran from that exercise... (a real eye opener to how the corporate world works!) I dont have any time at all for Mr Webb, but I don't have any hostility towards Mr Mosen, as he at least tried to look after the staff. Interesting times back then..... The Cityjet "Family" on Photo Day...  TZL Cockpit:(Collins Avionics)  TZM: (King Avionics)  TZN (I think - it has the Ansett wall panelling) I actually logged .8 hrs twin turbine night IFR in this aircraft amongst all my C172 time - I flew it part way back from Wellington on its delivery flight with a training captain in the RH Seat - all legit!  I dont have a pic of KMLs cockpit as I took the photos for the tenders process, and by then we had robbed bits out of the "Camel" to get the others working! one of my few CJ souvenirs (Other than my desktop Model CJ Bandit) - remember these? (may be worth something in the future...)  |
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Post by haughtney1 on Nov 4, 2010 4:13:47 GMT 12
Nice pics Bruce...when was that piccy taken? my ugly mug isnt there (fortunately) I have fond memories of the place..it gave me my proper flying start..but it took another 18 months after that on the other side of the world before I got back in the cockpit.
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Post by Bruce on Nov 4, 2010 7:37:25 GMT 12
the staff pic was taken just before the public launch of CJ, July 1999 from memory (Same day as the air to airs). The photographer is John King. That was quite a day as we actually had all 4 bandits together (The only time that happened before the receivership) and there was a bit of a muck up with security clearaces for John to go airside, and AVSEC decided to be difficult after Mr Webb abused them on the phone about it....
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Post by dazz on Nov 8, 2010 14:28:45 GMT 12
Good stuff Bruce! Those bring back a few memories! Any chance of getting a copy of that staff shot for my memoirs? The old Bandit office still looks like home! Luckily I've moved on from loading/unloading 1500kg of salmon at 3am in the rain, happy days! I always wondered if those those unheated windscreens in TZL were legit wrt 'known icing'. You can just make out the difference from your photos. Cheers Darren
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