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Post by sqwark2k on Jan 1, 2010 22:20:06 GMT 12
Now I'm not out to upset anyone but I've noticed that at least 50% of the latest Civil Aviation threads are regarding agricultural flying/aircraft....
I myself, am not so much into the Ag scene, and have been wondering lately if a separate Ag forum might be on the cards....
As I said, not out offend, just putting it out there that maybe the Ag boys would like a forum of their own.
S2K
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Post by studentpilot on Jan 1, 2010 22:22:32 GMT 12
Sounds goodto me.
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Post by ZacYates on Jan 1, 2010 23:06:05 GMT 12
That is an interesting idea. I'm sure one of we regular ag contributors would be more than happy to moderate...paging Mister Homewood, Mister Homewood to the white courtesy phone...no, the WHITE phone...
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 1, 2010 23:08:24 GMT 12
Do you mean as a seperate board or sub-board on this forum? Or create a seperate forum unconnected to Wings Over New Zealand Forum?
I don't really see the need nor point in either. Ag flying is part of Civil Aviation, just as airlines, civil training, aero club flying, private flyers, freight services, etc all are. I don't think we need another board splitting them off. There are too many boards here now in my opinion, making moderation time consuming enough.
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Post by thomarse on Jan 2, 2010 6:50:15 GMT 12
Dave
Funnily enough, I had already thought of PMing you to make the same suggestion. I would love to see a forum on here devoyed to ag stuff.
However I accept your point about workload. I greatly appreciating your efforts as I'm sure we all do, and would not want for one minute to further complicate the issue.
There's another underlying problem too, and that's how much of NZ's history has involved non-ag a/c shoved into the ag role. For example, would the excellent (but now wilting, sadly) thread "Cessna 180s in NZ" belong where it is or in the proposed ag forum?
Regards
Tom J
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 2, 2010 9:18:31 GMT 12
Exactly Tom, there's too much cross-over. I have actually considered this idea before, long ago and several times, as there is such an interest in agricultural aviation on here, but on weighing everything up I don't think it is worthwhile. Sorry guys. Feel free to offer your thoughts though if you don't agree.
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Post by studentpilot on Jan 2, 2010 11:45:47 GMT 12
Dave your right about the cross over, but using your idea surely you could lighten the load up by combing a few on the board now with similar interests.
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Combine photography with Airshow and displays and NZ aviation history (All involve photogarphy) AND military re-enactment, it's all history one way or another
Combine Sims, fulms, books, modelling, aviation fulms, all under Aviation hobbies
Combine Gliding with Experimental and homebuild, there's cross over there with tugs and generally alternate to GA
No real need for Anzac cousins, they can post with the rest (Strayliyans think their "Special" anyway:)
There's a saving of about five or six titles which all really cover very similar things. There's not a whole lot of posting going on with some of those different board titles, I'm sure there wouldn't be too much complaining if you condense it a bit if it helps with your moderation duties.
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Post by avagwhiz on Jan 2, 2010 12:43:55 GMT 12
Dave as a new member whose main interest is agwork I would advise that going thru 48 pages of this current topic trying to sort out the ag articles has so far taken me about 40 hours online over the past week.Having it in one lot would have saved a lot of time and I gave up noting replies I could have made as I just wanted to get to the end!
Great site and hard to walk away from however my boat needs to catch fish again so will have to take a break.
Have also offered to dig out photos for various members and will have to spend some time on that too.
Regards.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 2, 2010 13:04:47 GMT 12
Dave your right about the cross over, but using your idea surely you could lighten the load up by combing a few on the board now with similar interests. As you're fairly new here I'll give a little history about the forum and how it has developed. This forum was created as a way for people to offer feedback and ask questions related to my website at www.cambridgeairforce.org.nz and that was it's main aim. A secondary aim when I set it up was to create a place where RNZAF history could be discussed online, as that is my major interest and before this forum was created in Februray 2004 nowhere existed like it for doing that. It has gradually developed as it has grown to the much wider interest groups that it now encompasses. Seriously, when i set this forum up I never knew anyone actually liked topdressers as a hobby, it was obviously a very exclusive hobby before this forum has allowed a way for people across the world to discuss it. Many members have commented to me the same thing, they never knew people were so interested in Fletchers, etc. I think it is great that the forum allows such a hobby and interest and exchange of ideas and information to flourish. The photography board was set up originally as a place to discuss the technical aspects of aviation photography. We had several good aviation photographers, many professional, for some time though several have sadly since drifted away (they probably don't like Fletchers). At the time there was a lot of discussion about that topic - the technical side of photographing aircraft - and it was requested by a couple of members that I set it up. Since then the populace have transformed the board themselves into somewhere to show your photos if they don't fit into other categories. I've never had an issue with that and see no reason to make changes. The Airshows and Displays Board will be kept seperate. A lot of events are advertised in there, and the historical aspects would fit well enough in either there or the Preservation Board, but I don't really want to combine the lot because current airshow news will quickly disappear from view. This board is likely to be terminated. I've been considering this for ages. It's a pointless waste of time, along with a few others that get no traffic such as Air Training Corps (which used to be active but hasn't been for a long time). Hmm. All these topics used to be one board, apart from Modelling which must be seperate. Films were seperated because people kept putting film links all over the forum and I wanted them all in one spot. it started as a board combined with books, radio and other media but then developed into a film sub-board attached to that main board, and then warranted its own board due to people not realising it existed as a sub-board. I may readress this soon to reclump them together. Sims was spun off from the modelling section at the request of members who wanted it but now it gets bugger all use too. I may re-attach it to modelling as a sub-board. Again I don't think this would work well. Gliding used to be considered part of civil aviation board and we got no gliding news at all. With it's own board, the gliding fraternity contribute. they felt welcome and several have joined us. It's quite a different topic from other areas. Hmmm... I'll let the Australian members comment on whether we should abolish their board. Personally I think it would be studity to do so. It is not just about moderation. One very good reason to have these completely seperate topics seperated as we do is when you want to do a search for a particular topic you can tick the genre in the search engine and limit the search so you're not looking across all the posts on the board. It narrows down and speeds up the search, making the engine more efficient. That is the very reason why we insist that topics be posted into appropriate areas and if they are not, Craig or I move them. It's all about archiving them for the future in the right areas. Can you guys see how much work it will be for me if I create a new sub-board for ag aviation? I will have to search out every ag aviation thread and move them over otherwise they won't come up in the right category in the search engine. I'm not keen to do that. This forum has been going for years and there have been a lot of Fletcher and other dung dropper posts over the years. My vote says they stay where they are. Right now I see no hardship in someone wanting to search for say "Fletcher" or "Agwagon" or "Topdressing" in the Civil Aviation board. It's a small enough topic to search it efficiently. Avagwhiz, welcome to the forum. I understand the point you're making but this forum caters to every sort of aviation topic in NZ, and so someone coming here looking for specifically Bomber Command, or Corsairs, etc, will have to endure the same searching. They don't expect their specialist topic to be seperated from the wider wartime RNZAF section, if you see what I mean. The search engine is pretty good if you use it right so you could have cut a lot of time down by searching keywords on there, such as "Zac Yates".  |
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Post by phil82 on Jan 2, 2010 13:23:58 GMT 12
No real need for Anzac cousins, they can post with the rest (Strayliyans think their "Special" anyway:) quote] Actually, they are; just like Kiwis! |
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