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Post by beagle on Oct 21, 2011 17:08:13 GMT 12
I would say that they are maybe stress points or points of interest thats easier to keep a watch on without full paint. If so it might only be for the first 100 hrs or so ? Mr Mcfly, your turn with the correct answer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2011 15:35:48 GMT 12
I would of said that the black parts were that no slip stuff, for maintenance personal.
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Post by beagle on Oct 24, 2011 16:14:03 GMT 12
pretty sure tfly was referring to the sandy coloured areas
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2011 18:26:51 GMT 12
oops sorry didn't see those, sorry
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Post by chewy on Oct 24, 2011 18:27:04 GMT 12
Rustkill primer or carpark dent.
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Post by guest on Oct 24, 2011 18:57:50 GMT 12
Rustkill primer or carpark dent. MMMmmmm.... Plastic airplanes don't dent, though, chewy?
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Post by tfly on Oct 25, 2011 9:53:50 GMT 12
Yes indeed I mean the sand coloured patches on main fuselage and tail boom
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Post by ngatimozart on Oct 29, 2011 22:14:46 GMT 12
I thought the first NH90 was due to arrive in NZ late October. Hopefully it's not on the Rena. Anyway does anybody have an update? The RNZAF and NZDF websites are very quiet on this. In fact looks like RNZAF haven't updated the NH90 page since about 2007. Very slack.
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dgsg
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Post by dgsg on Jan 5, 2012 16:15:58 GMT 12
Got the kit, just need the decals.... Just a reminder of my earlier offer in this thread to prepare artwork for a decal sheet, save it as a pdf, and make it available for download on this forum to anyone who wants to print their own decals out on decal paper. Just need help setting up a photo op sometime so I've got enough reference to make a proper job of it. – Deane.
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dgsg
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Post by dgsg on Feb 17, 2012 23:22:24 GMT 12
Got the kit, just need the decals.... Just a reminder of my earlier offer in this thread to prepare artwork for a decal sheet, save it as a pdf, and make it available for download on this forum to anyone who wants to print their own decals out on decal paper. Just need help setting up a photo op sometime so I've got enough reference to make a proper job of it. – Deane. Hi everyone, update on this. With the help of Dave, have been in contact with someone on the Helicopter Transition Unit at Ohakea. Looks like both the NH90 and the A109 are in for a few markings tweaks over the next few months: "The RNZAF are currently in the process of re-mapping the markings of both the A109 and NH90 aircraft. There are some minor changes required to both aircraft's decals to meet our policy requirements. These changes will be annotated on relevant drawings as they are produced by a team here at Ohakea. This mapping process will commence soon, now we have taken ownership." So the markings we see on 31 March may not be absolutely 'definitive'. This may delay the 'decal project' a little, but it'll happen.
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thax
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Post by thax on Apr 8, 2013 22:19:17 GMT 12
A couple of follow-ups:
The unpainted patch was an area where (on other frames) there were some manufacturing defects (voids and porosity). After some monitoring, the area was painted.
The cross-antenna on the upper tail boom is for SatCom.
The NH90 was offered with a piloting FLIR (not an EO system as such), but the kit offered at contract time was obsolescent and very expensive so was not taken as an option. The aircraft is fiited 'for but not with', so that a replacement FLIR could be fitted as a mid-life upgrade.
The bulbous nose holds the weather radar.
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Post by richard1098 on Apr 8, 2013 22:59:04 GMT 12
Will the RNZAF be using TopOwl with the NH-90?
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thax
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Post by thax on Apr 10, 2013 22:28:04 GMT 12
Re Topowl:
The aircraft are fitted 'for but not with' the Topowl Helmet Mounted Sight and Display (HMSD). At the time of contract this equipment was still not mature (e.g. the night vision system was of a lower standard than existing ANVIS-9 NVGs and there were latency issues with the head tracker) and it was very expensive. As a mitigation against this change to design HMI, we elected to fit the fifth MFD (which is standard on the NFH (naval) variants but not on the TTH (troop) variant).
Topowl has since matured significantly and it is possible the RNZAF will look at a mid-life upgrade in this respect (if and when funding allows!).
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Post by beagle on Apr 10, 2013 23:27:19 GMT 12
Did any chat come up in the selection process with regards the high cabin version the Sweedish military have purchased. I take it price at the time was also on peoples minds and maybe the cost for that version would have been 1 less frame or another trip to Govt to see if the wallets were completely empty the first time. Are there many operators who chose not to go along with the IRDS like us.
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Post by beagle on Apr 11, 2013 17:06:20 GMT 12
Re Topowl: The aircraft are fitted 'for but not with' the Topowl Helmet Mounted Sight and Display (HMSD). At the time of contract this equipment was still not mature (e.g. the night vision system was of a lower standard than existing ANVIS-9 NVGs and there were latency issues with the head tracker) and it was very expensive. As a mitigation against this change to design HMI, we elected to fit the fifth MFD (which is standard on the NFH (naval) variants but not on the TTH (troop) variant). Topowl has since matured significantly and it is possible the RNZAF will look at a mid-life upgrade in this respect (if and when funding allows!). Maybe Top Owl for the Nh90 could be tagged onto the ones we get along with the A400
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Post by jimtheeagle on Apr 12, 2013 13:31:46 GMT 12
I asked a pilot at Omaka and he said that the high-cabin aircraft were 40 knots slower than the standard ones... That surprised him too.
He also said something about the radar being in a funny place in relation to the EO turret mount. The Omani ones have it in the opposite order, he said.
All NH90s seem to be different in detail. A bit of a modeller's nightmare.
JT
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Post by beagle on Apr 12, 2013 16:31:54 GMT 12
I think the radar on the Omani and sweedish variants will be better off if there was an occassion for a wheels up landing. 40 knots seems a lot for the high cabin variant. Whats the standing up room in our like I wonder. The crewmen would be loving the extra height over the Iroquois
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hughw
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Post by hughw on Nov 2, 2016 8:35:32 GMT 12
Those solid looking blocks on the forward upper of both side of the fuselage, are they the mounting points for pylons for missiles or external fuel tanks. and if so it would mean to me that we are looking at getting pylons with ours. as if not I am sure they could have been omitted in the construction. Here is a photo I found of an RNZAF NH90 with pylons fitted on the milavia.net website, the caption states "RNZAF NH90 pylon for external fuel and weapons". I saw a photo of an RNZAF NH90 with droptanks fitted to these pylons but can't find it anymore, but hardly any other photos of pylons fitted on the NH90. I gather this is something the RNZAF rarely use if ever. Does anyone know whether the RNZAF NH90's do have the capability for weapons to be attached and fired/dropped from these pylons? I know machine guns can be mounted to the floor interior of the NH90 and A109 and that the A109 was fitted for but not with capability for weapons such as guns or rocket pods. But also how often are the machine guns mounted to these helicopters?
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Post by saratoga on Nov 2, 2016 21:09:40 GMT 12
I understand the fitting of pylons will be for the carriage of fuel tanks,and not common yet as they are still doing trials/testing/familiarising with the NH90. There is potential for weapons carriage but no requirement at present so not likely to see in the near future.
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