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Post by chinapilot on May 20, 2011 15:38:47 GMT 12
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 20, 2011 16:00:14 GMT 12
I wonder if any of these chaps are still alive today?
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Post by oggie2620 on May 21, 2011 1:02:38 GMT 12
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Post by Andy Wright on May 21, 2011 12:13:59 GMT 12
Saw that Thomas article link pop up on here, Dee, and thought it would generate good discussion on CF. Guys herecwill be all over it but I'm surprised it didn't come up on my daily WW2 news update.
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Post by steveh on May 21, 2011 15:08:14 GMT 12
Thanks Andy for that link. I think its fair to say both Matthew Wright's (any relation?) books, " A Near Run Thing" about Crete & "Desert Duel" the NZ Div in the Desert, have been muted in their praise of Hargest. My late father who served with British forces thru much of the desert campaign described him as a "dud" leader.
For those not au fait with M-G Sandy Thomas history, his book "Dare to be Free" is a must read.
Steve.
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Post by Andy Wright on May 21, 2011 17:53:49 GMT 12
No relation, Steve. Well, as far as I know anyway. No doubt we are related somewhere back in the dark ages. LOL.
I had no direct knowledge of ST until yesterday but put two ad two together when I saw Dare To Be Free, a book that turns up in my searches a fair bit but I have yet to buy or read.
Noticed a couple of familiar Kiwi names in the link Chinapilot posted at the start of the thread - Frame and Lamond. Good Sunderland chaps.
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Post by Dave Homewood on May 21, 2011 18:34:06 GMT 12
Sandy Thomas is one of NZ's most respected soldiers, and from memory he escaped from the enemy more times than any other NZ soldier. He was interviewed for our film interview project last year (I have not yet seen it, my colleague went to Aussie to do the shoot). He was also featured in several NZ documentaries on WWII, such as new Zealand At War (1995) and I think his own one off doco in the early 2000's called Dare to Be Free.
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Post by kb on May 21, 2011 19:52:10 GMT 12
We have already recently had comment about Major General Thomas' thoughts on Hargest etc. Most overseas historians have been critical of both Hargest and Andrews. It seems that Colonel Andrews was either having or about to have a nervous break down at the time of the battle while Hargest was a political appointment by Peter Fraser.
I have recently read David Filer's book on Crete. As a New Zealander he has a more balanced view on Freyberg but sees the other two as not really up to it.
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