Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 25, 2007 22:35:59 GMT 12
Here are some photos from Graeme Ronayne's collection of Harvards from when he was training as a pilot. They include some air to air shots which must be rare to see.
I wondered at first if these were OTU aircraft or even squadron aircraft as they are camoulaged.
However looking just now more closely they probably have the yellow side panels of SFTS aircraft I think, and especially one shot where there's a long beach below there looks to be a lake next to it, and I wonder if that's Lake Grassmere? If so, they're probably No. 2 SFTS aircraft from Woodbourne.
Anyway, i hope you like them. There are a few others but they're so fuzzy they're not that great. Rememebr these are from tiny box brownie snaps that would have been hand developed by the user, so they're not top quality prints sadly.
Above is the one where I wondered if it is Lake Grassmere below.
Above - that looks like practice bombs in the chap's hands
This one is a crashed example, and it seems from other photos that a Vincent or Vilde may have been involved too, as it is seen sans wheels sitting on its belly. A reminder, the wheels don't retract on the V-bombers
The aircraft are early Mark IIs possibly still with wooden rear fuselages (the damage on the crashed aircraft looks more like splintered wood than buckled metal, In the picture with the guy holding the bombs, the luggage bay door normally seen on metal fuse Harvards doesnt seem to be apparent). That would definitely give them "900" series serials. They are very early in modification status - note the rear canopy framing, long exhausts, venturis on the fuselage sides, absence of cowl gun fairings, and offset pitot heads. Pictures of these early harvards are not common, so its great to see these. They do have bomb racks, antenna masts and ring and bead gunsights, which suggests they are operating as advanced trainers. The scenery is difficult to make out, but does look like Marlborough.
If it was supposed to be easy. everyone would be doing it...
Yes Dave, I saw the other photos of Graeme's .The F4U pictures .I really enjoyed those ones.
I managed to get to see John Smiths Collection earlier this year.It was fantastic to see the Harvards he had there exp. the MkII's . One almost complete the other in many many peices.Like going back into a time warp. The Mk II's are in many ways my favourites of the RNZAF Harvard's
Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 26, 2007 20:41:27 GMT 12
And one of the photos of the downed Vincent or Vildebeest (most of the photos of this are terrible and are less than two inches across, so hard to get detail, but one shows that wrecked Harvard is near the bellied in Vincent)
Dave wrote.. And one of the photos of the downed Vincent or Vildebeest (most of the photos of this are terrible and are less than two inches across, so hard to get detail, but one shows that wrecked Harvard is near the bellied in Vincent)
Was'nt a good day That Day to be flying !
The pictures may lack details ,but are certainly priceless. What a snapshot in time.
Here's a photo I have of NZ1041 while serving on 2 OTU at Ohakea in 1944- obviously a bit of an 'oops' but nice shot showing the OD-4 codes etc...I think the Sqn codes and forward cowl are red...which is what the P-40s had I believe. I understand the OTU had Qty 4 Harvards on strength..the rest being P-40s.
Does anyone have any OTU Harvard photos ...or perhaps some additional info ?