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Post by oldfokker on Nov 26, 2017 23:56:01 GMT 12
Arriving RAAF Amberley 26th Nov
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Post by atea on Nov 27, 2017 13:19:03 GMT 12
Spotted it on Flightradar earlier. Should be here in the next hour or so based on the speed it was doing.
Direct to Whenuapai or into Auckland do we think?
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Post by malcolma on Nov 27, 2017 14:14:13 GMT 12
I just notice on flightradar that a RAAF KC-30 landed at Auckland after transiting from Amberly to Ohakea for a what looked like a flyby then up to Auckland.
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Post by atea on Nov 27, 2017 14:56:11 GMT 12
I just notice on flightradar that a RAAF KC-30 landed at Auckland after transiting from Amberly to Ohakea for a what looked like a flyby then up to Auckland. The RAAF KC-30's do fairly regular training flights over here. Missed approach at Ohakea then onto Auckland before returning home.
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Post by joey05 on Nov 27, 2017 18:06:01 GMT 12
B757 '72 also looks like WLG - AKL, guessing C2 has arrived, not on flightradar now?
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Post by nz104 on Nov 27, 2017 18:38:59 GMT 12
It's come down to NZCH & is overnighting here aswell
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Post by horicle on Nov 28, 2017 12:16:29 GMT 12
Everybody but me saw the C-2 overfly Feilding yesterday afternoon about 1400hrs. It was so quiet and I was indoors.
Will it replace our 757’s in the strategic/heavy role? Surely must, but the crap on the internet is so confusing. I read one commentator (UK A400 lover) quote it is not for us because it has no tactical capability. Did not want to believe that so I went through the available Kawasaki data and found “The XC-2 has been designed to take-off and land on unprepared airstrips or short runways such as grass, snow and mud.”
But then in a Flight Global website I found a statement attributed to an un-named Kawasaki rep “The airlifter can handle takeoffs and landings from short runways, but Tokyo did not require that it to be capable of use from rough fields, he says.”
It is still a good 757 replacement. Just a bit undignified in the VIP role. But look at the airfields it could use. To me the undercarriage layout is very ‘high flotation’, just what you need for grass, snow and mud. Maybe They (Tokyo) just haven’t qualified it for this role?
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Post by conman on Nov 28, 2017 17:50:27 GMT 12
Everybody but me saw the C-2 overfly Feilding yesterday afternoon about 1400hrs. It was so quiet and I was indoors. Will it replace our 757’s in the strategic/heavy role? Surely must, but the crap on the internet is so confusing. I read one commentator (UK A400 lover) quote it is not for us because it has no tactical capability. Did not want to believe that so I went through the available Kawasaki data and found “The XC-2 has been designed to take-off and land on unprepared airstrips or short runways such as grass, snow and mud.” But then in a Flight Global website I found a statement attributed to an un-named Kawasaki rep “The airlifter can handle takeoffs and landings from short runways, but Tokyo did not require that it to be capable of use from rough fields, he says.” It is still a good 757 replacement. Just a bit undignified in the VIP role. But look at the airfields it could use. To me the undercarriage layout is very ‘high flotation’, just what you need for grass, snow and mud. Maybe They (Tokyo) just haven’t qualified it for this role? That is my understanding , the JASDF required only the short field but not unprepared, the aircraft was designed with the ability to operate on rough terrain would require a certification process I would imagine
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Post by 30sqnatc on Nov 28, 2017 18:35:54 GMT 12
It is still a good 757 replacement. Just a bit undignified in the VIP role. Not enough windows for the passengers Essential requirement for defence tourism - one per row of seats.
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Post by malcolma on Nov 29, 2017 20:42:15 GMT 12
It is still a good 757 replacement. Just a bit undignified in the VIP role. Not enough windows for the passengers Essential requirement for defence tourism - one per row of seats. I was giving the window issue some thought the other day. A "luxuary" 40ft container kitted out with all the bells and whistles for VIP seating etc with oval LCD screens for windows and a couple of GoPros out each side of cockpit windows and a live feed to the "VIP" windows. Paint the container white and have VIP on the side and all is good. Roll on roll off as well. Once VIPS onboard you could even load useful cargo around it.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Nov 29, 2017 21:01:17 GMT 12
One of those containers weighs 2,300 kg empty. It might be a bit too much weight?
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Post by camtech on Nov 29, 2017 21:11:46 GMT 12
I'm sure that for a greatly inflated price, one could be built out of lightweight material.
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Post by kiwithrottlejockey on Nov 29, 2017 21:46:50 GMT 12
Just ask SAFE Air how to do it.
Ooooops, I forgot....they don't exist any more.
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Post by horicle on Nov 29, 2017 21:50:15 GMT 12
ON the subject of the plug in VIP suit. Didn't we do something like that so Princess Anne could tour the islands in a Herc. It was definitely pre digital so I think the 'windows' were missing.
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Post by ErrolC on Nov 29, 2017 22:10:23 GMT 12
Just ask SAFE Air how to do it.
Ooooops, I forgot....they don't exist any more.
Doesn't Airbus still employ basically the same people, in the same place? Or have they scaled back? How many decades since the engineering operation has been independently owned?
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Post by 30sqnatc on Nov 30, 2017 7:44:54 GMT 12
ON the subject of the plug in VIP suit. Didn't we do something like that so Princess Anne could tour the islands in a Herc. It was definitely pre digital so I think the 'windows' were missing. As a child I came back from Singapore on a C-130 when dads 3 year posting finished. The plane had few passengers and the VIP pod was up front but I don't recall if is was occupied by VIP. Route was Singapore - Alice Springs - Auckland with just a brief fuel stop in Aussie. Perhaps spare crew used it?
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Post by madmac on Nov 30, 2017 7:51:08 GMT 12
There is also Altitude as they do VIP interiors, so long as they don't make the same stuff ups that got them sold off.
RIP New Zealand owned aerospace companies.
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Post by horicle on Nov 30, 2017 13:57:56 GMT 12
I am intrigued. Just been searching the on-line media to see what the visiting Kawasaki C-2 has been doing. It must be a stealth airlifter because it seems to be invisible. Something not mentioned in the brochures. Unfortunately just a sign of how relevant things that interest us are to the what passes for the media. Where is it now? Please tell me I just failed to find the story.
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Post by ErrolC on Nov 30, 2017 14:06:36 GMT 12
Better marketing by the Brazilians - they had a Herald journalist on a test flight before theirs came here, didn't they?
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Post by conman on Nov 30, 2017 14:59:41 GMT 12
Some nice video of the C2 in Wellington
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