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Post by turboNZ on Mar 7, 2005 8:44:24 GMT 12
Greetings,
Reminder of Air Force on at 8pm tonight.
Tonight’s episode is about:-
3 Squadron, RNZAF take part in their biggest tactical exercise in years, including an emergency Mayday and landing a helicopter that has blown its engine.
Looks like good be a goody
Cheers
TNZ
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IVAN
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Post by IVAN on Mar 7, 2005 10:01:46 GMT 12
I saw that one last week. I thought tonight's was about 5 Squadron and a Maritime exercise ?
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Post by turboNZ on Mar 7, 2005 10:18:59 GMT 12
oops you're right  I went off TV1's website. Duh me !! Isn't it ASW or something like that tonight ? TNZ |
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Post by turboNZ on Mar 7, 2005 12:07:03 GMT 12
Also the paper lists that as the episode tonight so bugg'rd if me knows  TNZ |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 7, 2005 16:24:23 GMT 12
I think the series has had two episodes swapped in broadcast order compared with the publicity the makers sent out to publishers. Going by the advert I saw a night or two ago, it will by Orions of No. 5 Squadron competing in an exercise in Malaysia. Looks cool. I love the Orions. I went flying in one once, sadly only the once, but it was enough to make me sick! Tactical flying at low level over the Hauraki Gulf on an empty stomach after a hard night before! Ah, to be that young again. I took these photos on that flight...   Also, this photo was taken when I was based at Whenuapai in 1989. This Orion had just arrived home the night before from an Excercise Fincastle overseas (can't recall where that year) and note that it had acquired a neat mascot, Dog from Footrot Flats, by the door. He didn't stay long so I was glad I photographed the plane like that. I wish I'd got closer now.  |
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Post by turboNZ on Mar 7, 2005 20:17:18 GMT 12
Nice pics, Dave. Tonights wasn't too bad. Good to see we can still hold our own against the other nations  TNZ |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 7, 2005 20:24:45 GMT 12
I really enjoyed tonight's episode. It had some great footage. I was surprised they showed so much inside the middle of the Orion - in my day much of the equipment was secret and no cameras were allowed to click or wurr in that area.
I couldn't help thinking how similar the role of the Orion crews today is to their predecessors in wartime Hudsons and Venturas.
Something else that struck me, I wonder if the young crews who work in and on the Orion on the ground and in the air appreciate that the first young men in their 20's and 30's to work on the same planes will now be in their 60's and 70's. A really scary thought!!
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Post by turboNZ on Mar 7, 2005 20:29:30 GMT 12
The fact that the Orion came from the '60s ?? Same could be said about the Herk crews,.....and the Huey crews...... hmmm,...message coming through loud and clear !!!  TNZ |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 7, 2005 20:51:46 GMT 12
Yep, all three types plus the Sioux entered service with the RNZAF in 1965 - though not all individual aircraft in each fleet. Two Hercs came later in 1968, some of the Iroqouis and Sioux came in the 1970's and one Orion joined the others in the early 1980's from the RAAF.
Their original crews would have been born during the war!!
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Post by Bruce on Mar 7, 2005 21:03:04 GMT 12
5Sqn do really well with what they've got, but would they have had the same success if the Collins Class Sub was nuclear powered and therefore submerged? Of course that is irrelevant as "Helen-who-knows-all" says we have never needed sub hunting capability and hostile submarines have never operated in NZ waters since WW2. ....Yeah right, Ive seen some nice pics of soviet subs in the 1970s not far from NZ. (taken by a P3!). Speaking of Submarines during the cold war (sorry to go off topic a bit) has anyone heard the stories that in the 1970s Rob Muldoon invited the USN to base nuclear subs in Fijordland to replenish supplies and fresh water, taking advantage of a natural magnetic anomaly of the coast? Some versions of the story tell of Subs actually visiting, and unmarked C130s seen at Queenstown. I have heard these stories do the rounds from time to time but I am sceptical - what do people think?
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Post by turboNZ on Mar 7, 2005 23:26:48 GMT 12
Speaking of Submarines during the cold war (sorry to go off topic a bit) has anyone heard the stories that in the 1970s Rob Muldoon invited the USN to base nuclear subs in Fijordland to replenish supplies and fresh water, taking advantage of a natural magnetic anomaly of the coast? Some versions of the story tell of Subs actually visiting, and unmarked C130s seen at Queenstown. I have heard these stories do the rounds from time to time but I am sceptical - what do people think? umm,...sounds a little dodgy, how would those C-130's go about their business without someone knowing a little? But I guess anything's possible. Helen wouldn't have a bar of that though !! TNZ |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Mar 7, 2005 23:49:11 GMT 12
When I worked at Whenuapai in 1989 there was a flap on, and everyone was whispering that a Russian sub was inside Auckland Harbour and had been spotted by a P3. I wasn't sure what to think, but I do know all of a sudden a flight of Skyhawks were on base, and were active all afternoon. Later in the day in No. 40 Sqn hangar one of the Herc drop tanks had been done up by some wags as a Russian sub with a cardboard coning tower and red star, with a broom handle turned into a perisope. It was classic. So I think I heard enough and saw enough to know a sub was inside our waters and it wasn't an Allie.
I have heard the rumour about Fiordland too Bruce, but not unmarked Hercs. I don't know whether to give either any credit. But then I have heard that he master criminal Tommy Suharto comes in and out of NZ whenever he likes in an unmarked Air Force plane from his nation.
And lets face it, the then-secret US spy bases at Waihopai and Warkworth were set up without the public knowing till the late 1980's. Anything's possible. There are cloak and dagger things going on all the time even in this country.
Back to the P3K Orions - I know they are having yet another wing upgrade, but when they eventually have to retire, what could replace the Orion? NZ cannot afford AWACs.
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Post by beagle on Jun 30, 2014 21:24:06 GMT 12
I think the series has had two episodes swapped in broadcast order compared with the publicity the makers sent out to publishers. Going by the advert I saw a night or two ago, it will by Orions of No. 5 Squadron competing in an exercise in Malaysia. Looks cool. I love the Orions. I went flying in one once, sadly only the once, but it was enough to make me sick! Tactical flying at low level over the Hauraki Gulf on an empty stomach after a hard night before! Ah, to be that young again. I took these photos on that flight... Also, this photo was taken when I was based at Whenuapai in 1989. This Orion had just arrived home the night before from an Excercise Fincastle overseas (can't recall where that year) and note that it had acquired a neat mascot, Dog from Footrot Flats, by the door. He didn't stay long so I was glad I photographed the plane like that. I wish I'd got closer now. not sure if I ever saw these programs. I must have though. As to that P3 Orion just arriving home from a Fincastle, that fact is incorrect as I went to the UK, RAF St Mawgan for Fincastle '89 and the aircraft we took was NZ4203. the dog was painted on before I arrived on sqn in '88, and was removed on the next group. oh and you can just see my brown XA Falcon parked outside the hangar. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jun 30, 2014 21:29:48 GMT 12
Thanks for that correction Beags. Did any of the other Orions wear artworks like this?
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Post by beagle on Jun 30, 2014 21:46:02 GMT 12
not that I can remember.
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I went off TV1's website.
