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Post by jonesy on Feb 6, 2012 8:58:53 GMT 12
Well its come round again, so happy NZ day everyone....Instead of protesting at Waitangi  I'll be at work earning my time and a half and a day in lieu. What are the rest of you up to? Battling the commuter traffic tonight, or just chilling with the family? |
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Post by kiwitone on Feb 6, 2012 10:37:47 GMT 12
I went and brought the special kiwi lamb at tesco....heard they had the usual goings on with the Circle line crawl in London. cold weather has set in, so that means it hot where you are....and brass monkey here.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 6, 2012 10:48:11 GMT 12
It's not hot here, no. Just right. We are not having summer this year, just spring right through till Autumn.
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Post by jonesy on Feb 6, 2012 10:49:46 GMT 12
I went and brought the special kiwi lamb at tesco....heard they had the usual goings on with the Circle line crawl in London. cold weather has set in, so that means it hot where you are....and brass monkey here. Oh so you brought kiwi lamb...well its cheaper there than it is here so somebody oughta buy it...  |
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Post by Peter Lewis on Feb 6, 2012 10:59:30 GMT 12
BFR in the 172 at WP this morning.
Celebrating this afternoon.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 6, 2012 11:04:34 GMT 12
I'm surprised that kiwi lamb isn't all made in China these days, like most other things.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 6, 2012 11:12:02 GMT 12
As Waitangi Day is the National Day of Protest, and "bring out your whacky cause" day, I note that once again the people who want NZ to become a Republic are spouting off again. Aside from the many political and business probalems becoming a republic would cause, how would this affect the military? Her Majesty the Queen would no longer be the Commander in Chief, and no doubt that would fall to an elected President. I seriously cannot think of many kiwis worthy of the role of President of the nation and Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces. Sir Peter Jackson would be up there. He would re-equip the Strike Wing (with SE5a's but hell that's better than nothing ) The RNZAF would become the Republic of New Zealand Air Force. Of course though if the country was radically changed that much they'd do away with the colonialistic name and it would be the Republic of Aotearoa Air Force, or umm, RAAF! And the RNZN would of course become the RAN, Republic of Aotearoa Navy. I am starting to wonder if this republic group is the same wierd lot who want NZ and Aussie to merge. ;D |
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Post by jonesy on Feb 6, 2012 11:55:26 GMT 12
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Post by strikemaster on Feb 6, 2012 14:23:09 GMT 12
Righto, I think I will declare it a religious holiday and down tools for the rest of the day....... Luverly.
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Post by obiwan27 on Feb 6, 2012 14:37:55 GMT 12
Classic :-) !!!!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 6, 2012 15:09:34 GMT 12
Footage of the signing of the Treaty of Waitangi
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Post by strikemaster on Feb 6, 2012 16:03:59 GMT 12
My God that is funny. Tim Wallis has the back up South Island Air Force....... I've been peeing myself all afternoon. Since I downed tools......... Praise be to Billy, whilst I'm being religious. Patron saint of the funny bone. What a beaut day. |
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 8, 2012 23:45:05 GMT 12
Some complete dick has defaced the gravestone of Captain William Hobson in Symonds Street, Auckland, by spraypainting the words "Lies/honour tiriti" on it. It makes me livid.
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Post by ngatimozart on Feb 9, 2012 21:53:39 GMT 12
I'm no fan of Hobson because he was an imperialist lackey. Come the gloriuos day of the revolution........ Ease up Dave. You'll end up giving yourself a hernia, heart attack ,stroke, or a combinatiion thereof. It was totally out of order to spray paint Hobsons statue. Bloody amateurs. If you are going to dosomething and get in the crap for it you make it worthwhile and do a good job of it. Just like the pink elephant foot prints that went from AOC Support Groups quarters to the elephant trackers hut and then into the aerial farm at Wigram.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 9, 2012 23:51:29 GMT 12
It wasn't his statue, it was his gravestone. And I personally think anyone who desicrates a gravestone or a memorial are scum of the earth. It is complete sacrilege, and worse when Hobson was a great figure in NZ history. If these idiots have a political point to make, why do it that way, it achieves nothing whatsoever apart from either the council/ratepayers or the family having to fork out big to repair the damage. they are no better than those who painted swazticas on the Jewish graves there.
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Post by flyjoe180 on Feb 10, 2012 7:53:37 GMT 12
Yes, it is Captain Hobson's gravestone, he is buried there. And it is disgraceful and disrespectful of the graffiti appliers. The Jewish grave defacing with swastikas was a shocker, and this is no different really. One can only imagine the uproar if it were a prominent Maori grave that had been defaced.
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Post by ngatimozart on Feb 10, 2012 22:41:37 GMT 12
I don't believe in desecration of graves. That is abhorrent. Most Māori to would be upset by it as well. We like all cultures have our fair share of idiots. I didn't realise that Hobsons was buried beneath his statue. Odds on the vandals didn't either. But what goes around comes around and a grave be it in a uruapa or not is tapu. Back in the old days all our important people like chiefs tohunga etc., were buried in a secret grave for a year then their bones removed and placed in another secret place. This was so enemies couldn't find them and defile them by such things as using the bones as fishing hooks etc. Different culture different rules. Mind you we were also partial to eating our enemies then to - combat rations. Christianity came and changed all that (for the better) but locations of the bones of the old chiefs and tohungas are still kept secret.
Memories of wrongs done in the past are not easily forgotten and there are certain parts of the country where I would not say who I am descended from because of past grevious hurts caused. For example in the Bay of Plenty because of the Ngāpuhi led raids in the late 1820s and about 1000 Te Arawa were killed, eaten or taken as slaves. That is still a vivid memory and deep scar for Te Arawa today and in their eyes utu hasn't been done. I am not Ngāpuhi but one of my ancestors was a leader on those raids. So I can understand why those idiots spray bombed Hobsons statue but I don't condone it especially because it is his grave. There is a lot that Pākehā do not understand nor know about Māori and choose to ignore. There are now two generations of young and not so young angry Māori growing up because of wrongs that have not been addressed. It's not all about money either. It can be just an acknowledgement, apology and an understanding that we are different in the way we think but our two cultures working together can make this a very unique, strong and wealthy country. Sorry rant over.
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Post by luke6745 on Feb 10, 2012 23:06:52 GMT 12
What about the Morioris, have they ever got an apology? No.
So why should Maori?
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Post by Dave Homewood on Feb 10, 2012 23:33:12 GMT 12
This discussion is getting too political.
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I'll be at work earning my time and a half and a day in lieu.
