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Post by slackie on Aug 10, 2012 11:11:37 GMT 12
As the cause of this may be blatantly obvious, I must remind everyone that speculation as to cause isn't allowed on the forum. But it is an interesting study in a possibly incorrect "Go - No Go" decision... or more correctly "Go - re-assess - Abort" decision that wasn't made. www.liveleak.com/view?i=835_1344412426#comment_page=4 |
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Post by lumpy on Aug 10, 2012 12:39:46 GMT 12
Definitly a good example of " how not to do it " .
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Post by skyhawkdon on Aug 10, 2012 12:48:48 GMT 12
Amazing. They were very lucky to get away with minor injuries and no post crash fire.
Would leaving a bit of flap down after takeoff have helped? Or would that have just made it worse by adding more drag?
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Post by baz62 on Aug 10, 2012 15:18:01 GMT 12
This is the same video but gives some insight into the possible why but stressing that until the accident report comes out there is no definite answer.
Yes flaps would give more lift but as you say the drag may not have helped. But the engine may not have developed as much power if it was a hot and high pressure day either.
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Post by spongebob206 on Aug 10, 2012 16:24:29 GMT 12
So lucky.
Maybe too much weight too.
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Post by FlyingKiwi on Aug 10, 2012 20:51:37 GMT 12
Almost painful to watch - all that runway to get airborne and then a mile or so of perfectly open fields for making a safe precautionary landing into before the trees. Just very lucky they all got out of it comparatively unscathed (I believe the pilot broke his jaw which is a pretty minor injury when you look at the state of the aircraft afterwards)
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 10, 2012 21:19:00 GMT 12
On the news tonight they said all four turned up to work the following Monday, so it can't have been much of a broken jaw?
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Post by baronbeeza on Aug 10, 2012 21:23:36 GMT 12
I think you are missing the point Leo, he did the same trip last year and it was ok. What he didn't take into consideration was the trees have grown almost two metres in the last spring. It is a bugger but there is just so much you have to think about with the preflight prep these days. You would have thought the ipad would have helped out more.  I can't believe the cabin was so quiet... they were 'mericans weren't they ? |
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Post by baz62 on Aug 10, 2012 21:33:06 GMT 12
In one of the Nav lectures we discussed taking the pressure of the day and temperature into consideration especially with a heavily loaded aircraft.
And like Kevin said he had done it before and sometimes if something is done and it worked there's an assumption that there will be no problem the next time, sort of a familiarity with a certain activity that always has a positive result and a disbelief when things start going pear shaped. So they carry on.
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Post by corsair67 on Aug 10, 2012 22:39:12 GMT 12
It's pretty obvious to see what was behind this crash, and I really can't believe that none of you have picked up on it yet.
Global warming! ;D
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Post by Dave Homewood on Aug 10, 2012 23:43:02 GMT 12
I worked that out Craig but wasn't going to speculate in public... |
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Post by philip on Aug 11, 2012 13:42:32 GMT 12
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Post by phil82 on Aug 11, 2012 13:54:39 GMT 12
There's nothing like a good plummet to excite a reporter. They've been known to stay awake for hours dreaming of a scoop plummet. Just wait until the latest flight dram film "Flight" comes out, and a DC9 gets barrel rolled to save it!
I'll go and see it because Denzel Washington will make it look good!
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