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Post by Ykato on Jan 22, 2013 9:04:01 GMT 12
Steven Spielberg, Tom Hanks make new WWII drama Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks are set to collaborate on another World War 2 miniseries. The duo, who also worked together on Band of Brothers and The Pacific, confirmed they are developing the as-yet untitled miniseries for US network HBO. It will be based on the nonfiction book Masters of the Air: America's Bomber Boys Who Fought the Air War Against Nazi Germany by historian Donald Miller. Full Item Here: www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10860643
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Post by strikemaster on Jan 22, 2013 12:39:35 GMT 12
If its half as good as the last two it'll be a cracker.
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Post by ngatimozart on Jan 22, 2013 18:12:26 GMT 12
I saw that on the Key Aero forum last night when I was hunting info on Bristol Pegasus radial engines. I didn't think Pacific was anywhere near as good as Band of Brothers. This new one is based on the 8th Air Force bombing campaign. I saw 12 O'Clock High and that wasn't bad.
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Post by vs on Jan 22, 2013 18:44:11 GMT 12
Looking forward to it. Hope the computer generated graphics arn't nasty like red tails
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Post by flyjoe180 on Jan 23, 2013 12:51:01 GMT 12
Should be good!
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 23, 2013 16:27:29 GMT 12
No-one complained about the excellent CGI in The Pacific, like the Corsairs and Hellcats, and that was several years ago so I see no reason why it will not be great. I hope we see more than just B-17's, some Liberators and Marauders, etc, would be great!
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Post by strikemaster on Jan 23, 2013 17:55:47 GMT 12
Too true. 12 O'clock high was a great movie from what I remember too. Any Bomber group in England during WWII would make for great story telling.
Could someone get Jackson and Spielberg onto a story or two? Its long overdue for a good Kiwi war movie and there is tons of material to work with.
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Post by Luther Moore on Jan 23, 2013 20:44:50 GMT 12
No-one complained about the excellent CGI in The Pacific, like the Corsairs and Hellcats, and that was several years ago so I see no reason why it will not be great. I hope we see more than just B-17's, some Liberators and Marauders, etc, would be great! And some fighter escort scenes would be good too..
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 23, 2013 21:05:28 GMT 12
Yes, Spitfires, P-38's, Thunderbolts, and Mustangs.
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Post by Luther Moore on Jan 23, 2013 21:20:25 GMT 12
Welcome home Yank.
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Post by Officer Crabtree on Jan 23, 2013 21:51:11 GMT 12
That's a fantastic painting Luther. Very much looking forward to this series.
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Post by corsair5517 on Jan 23, 2013 22:13:08 GMT 12
Really?! You fellas don't get a little tired of the whole "How we won the war all on our own" ethos that pervades these things? If you're only watching these programmes for the SPFX, then get the "Dogfights" DVDs that my boy watches; as much CGI WWII airplanery as you could wish for!! :-)
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Post by corsair67 on Jan 23, 2013 22:42:42 GMT 12
To tell you the truth, I also didn't think "The Pacific" was as good as it could have been - but maybe that was because I read "With the Old Breed: At Peleliu and Okinawa" by Eugene Sledge a number of years ago, and didn't think they did as much as they could have with Sledge's material.
Anyway, we'll see how this turns out - I'm sure it'll sell very well.
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Post by strikemaster on Jan 23, 2013 23:08:29 GMT 12
If its American then you are going to get an American angle. That's how it works. As long as they aren't trying to do another U-571 I'll be happy.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 24, 2013 0:25:09 GMT 12
Personally I don't feel that the Hanks and Spielberg productions come across anything like the "We won the war all on our own" style that you seem to think. They are telling true stories and real men and their small part in the war. They are not making a documentary about all the Allied countries who took on the Fascists and Japanese.
I think it's hugely refreshing that these guys bring real stories to the screen, rather than fictional, over the top bullshit that pervaded through most previous US attempts to make a war film or series. They choose real men and don't change the names, or the stories. They also use very good actors, writers and crews. It's a far cry and darned sight better than the John Wayne "I'm the best and I singlehandedly won the war" crap of the past.
As for U-571, there was nothing wrong with that film, it was a great fictional action film based loosely on factual circumstance. Hollywood and lots of other production houses make such films every week, they are for entertainment, and this one was pretty darned good at what it did. No-ne ever said it was true. Yet the poms still had massive fits about it...
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Post by corsair5517 on Jan 24, 2013 0:51:52 GMT 12
Was U-571 the one with Jon Bon Jovi in it? I've not seen it, I'm afraid....
Wouldn't it be nice to see a war film with a NZ theme to it.... Something along the lines of "The odd angry shot" or "Beneath Hill 60"??
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Post by flyjoe180 on Jan 24, 2013 9:19:00 GMT 12
I seem to recall that Peter Jackson was toying with a Gallipoli idea a while back.
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Post by strikemaster on Jan 24, 2013 11:20:51 GMT 12
Mostly agree with you, Dave. That's what I mean by the angle, it was a personal perspective. U-571 for me wasn't one of the better war movies around, especially when you hark back to Das Boot.
I'd prefer not to worry about Gallipoli, I think NZ would benefit more from seeing other conflicts, like Italy, where the locals no more about the Kiwis that went than New Zealanders. Forgotten battles.
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Post by Dave Homewood on Jan 25, 2013 23:46:25 GMT 12
Agreed, Gallipoli has been done several times by the Aussies, the Brits and the Kiwis (Chunuk Bair). There were a lot of other battles in WWI that the New Zealanders fought in, on land, sea and in the air. Do something original.
I would also love to see a ten-part miniseries following a kiwi soldier or unit through from, say, Crete or perhaps El Alamein an into Italy with Cassino and other large battles covered.
And I agree again that nothing beats Das Boot, for a great story and realism. It was a masterpiece.
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Post by spongebob206 on Jan 26, 2013 7:50:10 GMT 12
Loved Band of Brothers and the Pacific. Have just re watched these with my son. I too thought Pacific was a flop until the second time around. Loved it. Can't wait
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