TEAL Flight Information

[AussieBob]

Was sorting out some family papers recently and wondered when TEAL or NAC or AirNZ ceased providing this flight information to passengers and what some of the background to it may be.
Anyone have any clues ?

[Dave Homewood]

Seems odd they used Celcius and Farenheight in the same document, I wouldn't have though kiwis knew what Celciys was back then.

Does the cabin altitude mean what altitude the pressurisation system is simulating?

[baz62]

Yes Dave you are correct re the cabin pressure. Perhaps the Celsius was there for those people from countries who did use it. Can't have been a lot though, mainly Europeans?

[avenger]

I guess this provision ceased when TEAL became AirNZ in 1965.
Plenty of time for this pax advice as flight time Auckland - Melbourne around 5 hours, no auto nav systems or inflight entertainment in those days, so the ability to depict flight progress limited.
Maybe the OAT was then indicated in degrees C altho as the L 188 C an American type would have expected F, altho all would depend on the Airline specification.

[flyjoe180]

An interesting document, thanks for sharing. The OAT is measured and read in degrees C (probably for International Standard Atmosphere reasons), although most older aircraft being American, the cabin temperature was/is in degrees F. An interesting find, predating obviously the updates you used to get on the movie screens.

[avenger]

Re the captain, Ian Paterson, the Herald reported at the time of his death, "Fortress pilot dies aged 76."
Initially trained pre war with the RNZAF but gained a commission with the RAF joining six months prior the war's outbreak. Also mentioned that he ferried the first Flying Fortress from US to UK.
As a Squadron Leader awarded the DSO for crippling a U-boat in 1942 in the Mediterranean.
(d. 24 September 1993.)

[Dave Homewood]

Fascinating, indeed.

[AussieBob]

Capt Ian Patterson had an exciting Sandringham flight Syd-Akl in 1947

ZK-AME departed Rose Bay, Sydney, on a regular scheduled flight to Auckland at 5.25am on 3Dec1947. She carried 29 passengers (one short of a full load) and six crew, Captain Ian Patterson commanding.
Two and a half hours into the flight, the aircraft descended to 1000ft ASL due to bad weather avoidance. Shortly afterwards, the number 3 engine began to vibrate and was shut down. The aircraft was now only at 500ft. Patterson decided to return to Sydney. The other three engines were running at full power, and began to overheat. Reducing power resulted in a further height loss, and the baggage and freight was thrown overboard in order to reduce weight.
By this means, ZK-AME was able to maintain 1000ft and return to Rose Bay on three engines.

And "Akaroa" had a fateful flight about 2 years (March 1965) following the flight shown on the above flight info sheet when it hit the dirt at Whenuapai.

[kiwithrottlejockey]

[kiwithrottlejockey]

[ewen]

Apr 14, 2013 11:49:06 GMT 12 AussieBob said:

Was sorting out some family papers recently and wondered when TEAL or NAC or AirNZ ceased providing this flight information to passengers and what some of the background to it may be.
Anyone have any clues ?

Thinking the position reports made it into the early Air-NZ days.

[/centre]

The original Akaroa (ZK-TEC) was a Lockheed Electra which first flew the Wellington to Sydney 'til it crashed in 1965 during a training exercise at Whenuapai.

The Akaroa on which this report was created (ZK-CLX) was the replacement bought from QANTAS and began it's service around the same time TEAL became Air New Zealand.

[kiwithrottlejockey]

[planewriting]

The position report dated 20 March is proof that these forms survived into the Air New Zealand days. ZK-TEC crashed on 27 March 1965 so 20 March would have been at least in 1966 as Air New Zealand came into effect on 1 April 1965 just four days after the crash. ZK-CLX, the replacement "Akaroa" was placed on the register on the register on 18 April 1965 having previously been VH-ECC with Qantas.

[avenger]

My advice from a crew member is confirmation the 20th March flight progress report was 1966.

[kiwithrottlejockey]

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