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Post by phil on May 12, 2012 16:43:41 GMT 12
Steve has been known to post on these forums.
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Post by Calum on May 13, 2012 9:25:06 GMT 12
Both of them seemed to remain pretty calm.
If I was Steve' I'd have been crapping my self....
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Post by Ykato on May 26, 2012 17:25:32 GMT 12
Video from Youtube channel: Johnrhagan
Lite version of that particular doco
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Post by fyl on May 26, 2012 17:30:15 GMT 12
Great link, thanks for posting it Ykato... If only the Macchi's were still in service...she's a lovely looking aircraft...
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Post by phil on May 26, 2012 19:16:07 GMT 12
I don't suppose anyone has the full version of that documentary anywhere? I was on 75 as a mech when it was made and recall watching it when it screened on TV (Tuesday Documentary I think?) But I've never seen it again.
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Post by sqwark2k on May 26, 2012 20:20:59 GMT 12
Affirm, I'd like to see the full version again. I remember when it was first screened. The student who was positioned first for the course photo is now (or most recently was) CO PTS, SQNLDR Anthony Budd. Megan was scrubbed from Wings on medical grounds and went into Airways as a controller. Blair Keen (dark haired guy next to megan discussing Arnie getting chopped) went on to 2 Sqn and I think was involved with an unrecovered spin and ejection off the coast of Perth ?? or something similar involving a spin and jettisoning some drop tanks to aid recovery?? Last I heard he went into the RAF when Strike was disbanded.
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Post by skyhawkdon on May 26, 2012 20:54:28 GMT 12
I remember all those students going through at PTS when I was there (1996-98) - they were a great course. Oh how the Air Force wishes it had an advanced pilot training system like that now... having Ian Gore do your final check ride in the Macchi must have been a hell of an experience!
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Post by lesterpk on May 26, 2012 21:30:01 GMT 12
Blair Keen accidentally shut down the engine of an A-4 while in a dogfight. Following the checklist he punched the external tank, got the engine relit and the aircraft back to Nowra. 400gal centreline tank was recovered from the sea and written off.
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Post by mumbles on May 27, 2012 0:29:57 GMT 12
Megan was scrubbed from Wings on medical grounds and went into Airways as a controller. I believe the quote as spoken was "Megan's gone u/s..." Classic I recall seeing one of the other student's names (Beetham) written on the side of a Red Checkers aircraft in recent times.
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Post by mumbles on May 27, 2012 0:33:07 GMT 12
I don't suppose anyone has the full version of that documentary anywhere? I was on 75 as a mech when it was made and recall watching it when it screened on TV (Tuesday Documentary I think?) But I've never seen it again. It screened on TV3 in 1998 as an "Inside New Zealand" feature. Not sure about getting a copy, but it can be viewed at the Film Archive in Wellington. www.filmarchive.org.nz/the-catalogue/media/wings-ride-the-lightning-f35034I re-watched it there a few years ago.
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Post by corsair67 on May 27, 2012 1:28:25 GMT 12
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Post by sqwark2k on May 27, 2012 22:59:37 GMT 12
Aren't there 2 Beetham brothers as RNZAF pilots?
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Post by phil on May 28, 2012 19:14:58 GMT 12
Yes. At least I think they are both still around.
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Post by lesterpk on Jun 9, 2012 3:24:55 GMT 12
Here's a pic of the 400gal tank after it was recovered.
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Post by jonesy on Jun 9, 2012 7:50:15 GMT 12
400 gal? thats a big ass drop tank for a Macchi isnt it? Only remember the ones on the A-4's being 300 and they seemed big enough....
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Post by skyhawkdon on Jun 9, 2012 8:32:23 GMT 12
Blair Keen accidentally shut down the engine of an A-4 while in a dogfight. Following the checklist he punched the external tank, got the engine relit and the aircraft back to Nowra. 400gal centreline tank was recovered from the sea and written off. This is what Les was talking about Jonesy. The A-4 could carry a 400 Gal tank on the centre line only.
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Post by jonesy on Jun 9, 2012 11:27:25 GMT 12
Roge that...I should make a habit of reading more than just the previous post Assumption being the mother of all f-ups as you may know!
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Post by trimotor on Oct 31, 2014 7:01:04 GMT 12
It was an interesting day...I was the incoming Flight Safety Officer on 14 Sqn at the time and was with a student doing the ILS at WP when I heard a relay of the Mayday call on the UHF. Told the tower we were vacating to the north and were cleared, so headed back to Whangarei to see what it was all about. All the sqn execs were on the golf course somewhere, so I beat the snot out of every golf course I could find, to get them to come back to the airfield - no cell phones then. No-one saw or reported me. Bugger. Ended up in Kaitaia that night, via a Huey.
What was not written anywhere at the time was that all the QFI's used to make sure we could put a fist between the canopy and our helmets for the very reasons Steve was hurt. I think it went in the books after that. For me, that meant having the seat right down on the floor.
Incidentally, the compressor damage required to fail the blade and the engine ,would happen within 5 hours of ingesting the FOD that would cause it - all that was needed was a nick you could;t see, but might feel with your finger nail. I was flying the aircraft the day before the crash.
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